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3 years 3 months ago - 3 months 3 weeks ago #8381 by HawkErrant
For your easy reference, you can click here to see last season's recruiting thread.

REQUEST TO RCBers
In an effort to keep recruiting information and Q&As easily accessible, please consider posting your recruiting comments and questions for this recruiting season (2016-17) in this pinned thread.

Also, if you know of an error or omission, please let me know so I can correct it.

Thank you, RCBers!

ROCK CHALK!
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TRACKING AY2016-17 PLAYERS and AY2017-18 RECRUITS Committed/Signed and Offered

ACADEMIC YEAR 2016-17 SIGNING PERIODS FOR D1 MEN'S BASKETBALL --
Early Signing Period window: 2016-11-09 thru 11-16
Regular Signing Period window: 2017-04-12 thru 05-17

DEPARTING PLAYERS AFTER AY2016-17 ((S) Scholarship, (W) Walk-on)
GRADUATING SENIORS
C Landen Lucas (S)
G Frank Mason (S)
G Tyler Self (W)

NBA EARLY ENTRANTS
G Josh Jackson: 2017-04-17 announcement, agent hired

2017-05-24 - deadline to withdraw from draft and retain eligibility assuming no agent is hired (date is ten days after the final day of the annual NBA Draft Combine, scheduled for May 9-14).

TRANSFERING OUT
F Carlton Bragg (S) - announced 2017-04-06 link
F Dwight Coleby (S) - announced 2017-05-15 link

OTHER LOSSES
C Evan Maxwell* (S) announced departure on Dec 31 2016 "it was not the right time for me and this will allow me to focus more on my future." www2.kusports.com/news/2016/dec/31/ku-tr...ell-leaving-program/

F TR/*** Jack Whitman 6-9/235 Lexington, KY/LCHS/William & Mary
Whitman tendered his resignation July 19, 2017, leaving a big man shortfall and Self & Co scrambling for a solid body to fill the gap for the 2017-18 season, if at all possible.
Whitman leaves KU
Self seeks to fill Whitman scholarship

G Tucker Vang (W) is not listed on the roster for 2017-18. Not aware of his situation.
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RETURNING PLAYERS and AY2017-18 STATUS (by Class; (S)cholarship or (W)alk-on)
SENIORS
G Devonté Graham (S)
G Sviatoslav Mykhailiuk (S)
F Clay Young* (W)

JUNIORS
G Lagerald Vick (S)

SOPHOMORES
C Udoka Azubuike (S)
F Mitch Lightfoot (S)
G Malik Newman* (S)

*Red-shirted one year.

SCHOLARSHIPS AVAILABLE
13 total scholarships allowed each AY
- 6 returning scholarship players, depending upon Svi staying in NBA draft or not.
= 7 scholarships to fill for AY2016-17
.. 1 Scholarships still available @2017-07-19.

ACADEMIC YEAR 2017-18 RECRUITING SYNOPSIS
Sources: Rivals, 247Sports, ESPN, Scout and others; National Rank & Ratings used are Rivals.
SIGNED or COMMITTED
Pos  Rnk/Rating	NAME		  HT/WT	   Hometown & HS/College		Committed/Signed
PF   10/*****	Billy Preston	  6-9/220  Mouth of Wilson, VA/Oak Hill Acad	16-11-18/16-11-18
G    38/****	Marcus Garrett	  6-5/180  Dallas, TX/Skyline			16-09-02/16-11-10
G    TR/****	Sam Cunliffe[1]	  6-6/195  Seattle, WA/Rainier Beach/ASU	17-01-07/17-01-12
F    TR/****	Dedric Lawson[2]  6-9/236  Memphis, TN/Hamilton/Memphis		17-04-10/17-04-25
F    TR/****	KJ Lawson[3]	  6-7/210  Memphis, TN/Hamilton/Memphis		17-04-10/17-04-25
G    TR/****	Charlie Moore[4]  5-11/170 Chicago, IL/Morgan Park/Cal		17-04-25/17-04-25

WALK-ONS
G     -/-	Chris Teahan[5]   6-5/190  KCMO/Rockhurst			17-04-25/NA
NOTES
[1] #36 in Rivals150 for 2016. Will be eligible to play for KU after the end of the Fall 2017 semester, and 
through AY2020-21 if he decides to stay in school all 5 years to play 4. "Signed" date will be when he is 
officially enrolled.
[2]#33 in Rivals150 for 2015. Will sit out 2017-18, will have 2 years to play 2. Originally moved up a year 
to the 2015 recruiting class so he could play with his older brother KJ.
[3]#54 in Rivals150 for 2015. Will sit out 2017-18, will have 2 years to play 2, may get 3 for 3 if NCAA 
approves a 6th year due to medical redshirting his freshman year (was hurt in 10th game of the season).
[4] #55 in Rivals150 for 2016. Reportedly is applying for hardship transfer status so he can play this 
fall (transferring to be closer to ill father), but getting it seems unlikely as it is questionable that 
Lawrence is close enough to Chicago for this to be approved. 
Assuming it is NOT granted, he will have 3 years to play 3 at KU.
[5] Younger brother of Connor Teahan. Rated as the 92nd best player in Missouri according to MaxPreps. 
[6] A graduate transfer starter for W&M (immediately eligible for Fall 2017). Unranked by any of the services 
out of HS (rated *** by Scout, ** by ESPN, unrated by Rivals and 247Sports). Averaging 22 minutes a game 
(W&M was grooming his freshman replacement last year, otherwise he might has seen more minutes), his 
2016-17 stats were 10.1 PPG, 5..4 RPG, 1.2 APG, 1.1 BPG, 1.5 TPG and 2.8 FPG. 
OFFERED (Multiple sources; where available, National Rank & Ratings are Rivals.)  
(updated for final Rivals ranking)
(NB: ! after position indicates recruit is listed on JayhawkSlant's “Hoops Hot Board”)
P   Rnk/Rating	NAME		  HT/WT	    Hometown & HS/College		Interest 

TRANSFERS BEING RECRUITED
P   Rnk/Rating	NAME		  HT/WT	    Hometown & College			Interest 
C     8/*****	Mitchell Robinson 7-0/220   Chalmette, LA/Chalmette/WKU		HIGH
NB: A Rivals 2017 Top 10 recruit, Robinson originally committed to WKU because his godfather was an 
assistant there.
His godfather left before WKU's 2017 summer session began.
Robinson started attending 2017 summer classes, but word is he never practiced or did anything with the 
team as he was considering transferring since his godfather had left.
If all the requirements have been met (and it looks like they have been), he should be able to play with 
a new school right away in accordance with the transfer rules outlined in the following sections of the 
NCAA Division I rules for 2017-18:
14.5.5.2 Exceptions for Transfers From Four-Year Colleges 
Subsection 14.5.5.2.7 Two-Year Nonparticipation or Minimal Participation Exception. 
See my 2017-08-12 post on this for more details. - HE.

Other Transfer Notes
~  will have 3 years to play 2, play immediately 
^ will have 3 years to play 2 after sitting out a year
+ will have 2 years to play 2 after sitting out a year
FORMER RECRUITS (not updated once they are off KU's radar)
F    01/*****	Michael Porter	  6-8/190   Seattle, WA	  Nathan Hale		Washington
F    02/*****	Mohamed Bamba	  6-11/205  Westtown, PA  Westtown School	Duke, UK, tu, Mich
C    03/*****	DeAndre Ayton	  7-0/250   Phoenix, AZ  Hillcrest Academy	Arizona
PG   04/*****	Trevon Duval	  6-2/189   Dallas, TX 	Advanced Prep Intl	Duke
G    07/*****	Collin Sexton	  6-1/170   Mableton, GA  Pebblebrook		Alabama
F    09/*****	Kevin Knox	  6-8/197   Tampa, FL  Tampa Catholic		Not KU
G    10/*****	Hamidou Diallo    6-4/180   Putnam, CT  Putnam Science Academy	Kentucky
C    11/*****	Brandon McCoy	  6-11/220  San Diego, CA  Cathedral Catholic	UNLV
G    12/*****	Troy Brown	  6-6/195   Las Vegas, NV  Centennial		Oregon
G    13/*****	Gary Trent Jr.	  6-4/180   Apple Valley, MN  Apple Valley	Duke
G    14/*****	Trae Young	  6-1/170   Norman, OK  North			Oklahoma
C    16/*****	Austin Wiley	  6-10/240  Birmingham, AL  Spain Park		Auburn
F    17/*****	PJ Washington	  6-7/200   Henderson, NV  Findley Prep		UK
F    18/*****	Kris Wilkes	  6-7/185   Indianapolis, IN  North Central	UCLA
C    19/*****	Nick Richards	  6-10/225  Elizabeth, NJ  The Patrick School	UK
F    20/*****	Brian Bowen	  6-7/195   La Porte, IN  La Lumiere School	Not KU
F    21/*****	Jarred Vanderbilt 6-8/200   Houston, TX	  Victory Prep		Kentucky
G    23/*****	Quade Green	  5-11/155  Philadelphia, PA  Neumann-Goretti	UK
G    24/*****	MJ Walker	  6-4/200   Jonesboro, GA  Jonesboro		Not KU
G    28/****	Nick Weatherspoon 6-1/170   Camden, MS  Velma Jackson		Miss St 
G    30/****	John Petty	  6-5/180   Huntsville, AL  JO Johnson		Not KU
G    31/****	Paul Scruggs	  6-3/190   Indianapolis, IN  Southport		Xavier
G    32/****	Matt Coleman	  6-2/170   Mouth of Wilson, VA  Oak Hill Acad	Not KU
C    33/****	Daniel Gafford	  6-10/201  El Dorado, AR  El Dorado		Arkansas
F    34/****	Cody Riley	  6-7/225   Chatsworth, CA  Sierra Canyon	UCLA
G    36/****	Tremont Waters	  5-11/160  West Haven, CT  Notre Dame HS	Georgetown
G    39/****	Chaundee Brown	  6-5/190   Orlando, FL  First Academy		Wake Forest
F    42/****	Jeremiah Tilmon   6-10/235  East St. Louis, IL E. St. Louis	Missouri
G    50/****	Chas.O'Bannon Jr  6-6/200   Las Vegas, NV  Bishop Gorman	Not KU
G    52/****	Brandon Randolph  6-6/165   Westtown, PA  Westtown		Arizona
F    54/****	Jericho Sims	  6-8/190   Minneapolis, MN  Cristo Rey Jesuit	Texas
G    58/****	Mitchell Ballock  6-4/175   Eudora, KS  Eudora			Creighton
F    67/****	Derek Culver	  6-10/230  Warren, OH  Harding			West Virginia
F    68/****	Jordan Tucker	  6-7/200   Marietta, GA  Wheeler		Not KU
C    74/****	Ikey Obiagu	  6-11/220  Decatur, GA  Greenforest		Florida St
F    91/****	Deng Gak	  6-9/210   Blairstown, NJ  Blair Academy	Miami(Fl)
G    94/****	Victor Bailey	  6-3/175   Round Rock, TX  McNeil		Oregon
G    99/**** 	Thomas Allen	  6-1/165   Wolfeboro, NH Brewster Acad		Nebraska
F   124/****	Abu Kigab	  6-6/180   Napa, CA  Prolific Prep  		Oregon
F   140/***	Kenny Wooten	  6-8/210  Las Vegas, NV  Trinity Christian	Oregon
C    --/****	Zach Brown	  7-1/256   Miami, FL  Calusa Prep		legal issues
C   ---/----	Chris Sodom	  7-3/225   Houston, TX  St. Thomas		New Mexico
TRANSFERS
F    --/--	Shakur Juiston~  6-7/215   Newark, NJ Hutchinson CC		UNLV

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3 years 3 months ago #8384 by CorpusJayhawk
Thanks so much for updating this Eric. This is a great one stop shopping for recruiting info.

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3 years 3 months ago #8388 by HawkErrant
Good to know my labor of love is appreciated!

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3 years 1 month ago - 3 years 1 month ago #8728 by HawkErrant
Shocks a lot of people who thought KU, who had been recruiting him the longest and the most consistently when few others had been due to doubts he would actually attend college, was the favorite.

On the downside, he did not pick KU.
On the plus side:
1. He chose early, letting KU move on early.
2. He did NOT pick Puke or Kenyucky.

SMH.

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3 years 1 month ago #8812 by HawkErrant
It's been a while since I did anything with this, so rather than go into any details on what's happened since the last posting I just brought all the tables up to date with what is available as of today.

As you will have seen in the threads being posted by others (e.g., gorilla and port) this summer, lots going on with KU hoops recruiting, but only Marcus Garrett as a commit so far.

Here is visit data for the recruits that KU really likes (source: Rivals JayhawkSlant)

COMMITTED
Marcus Garrett
Point guard
4 STARS
Rivals 150 Rank: 37
VERBAL COMMIT
In-Home Visit: 9/14/16
Official Visit: 9/2/16

UNDECIDED
Collin Sexton
Point guard
5 STARS
Rivals 150 Rank: 7
UNDECIDED
In-Home Visit: 9/9/16
Official Visit: 9/30/16

Troy Brown
Shooting guard
5 STARS
Rivals 150 Rank: 12
UNDECIDED
In-Home Visit: 9/12/16
Official Visit: 9/30/16

Trae Young
Point guard
5 STARS
Rivals 150 Rank: 14
UNDECIDED
In-Home Visit: 9/9/16
Official Visit: 10/21/16

P.J. Washington
Power forward
5 STARS
Rivals 150 Rank: 17
UNDECIDED
In-Home Visit: 9/12/16
Official Visit: TBD

Jarred Vanderbilt
Power forward
5 STARS
Rivals 150 Rank: 21
UNDECIDED
In-Home Visit: 9/21/16
Official Visit: TBD

Deng Gak
Power forward
4 STARS
Rivals 150 Rank: 91
UNDECIDED
In-Home Visit: 9/14/16
Official Visit: 10/21/16

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2 years 11 months ago #9148 by wchawk
Sexton and Brown can be crossed off. Not a great week to get some commits, but there are stil options out there.

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2 years 11 months ago #9342 by jayhawk969
Here is his announcement if it comes through :)



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2 years 11 months ago #9344 by OreadExpress
That commitment revelation video was very good.

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2 years 11 months ago #9369 by konza63
HUGE pickup!

Here's a good piece on him:

kuhoops.com/ku-basketball-news/115732593/

As an aside, Billy Preston is my all-time favorite keyboardist. Love the sound of him playing the Hammond!

Rock Chalk!

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1936 inscription on the portrait of Dr. Naismith, displayed above Phog Allen's office desk at KU.

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2 years 11 months ago #9372 by CorpusJayhawk
Konza, one of my favorite YouTube videos is Preston playing with the Beatles on the rooftop concert singing one of my fave Beatles songs, "Don't Let Me Down". You should check it out.

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2 years 11 months ago - 2 years 11 months ago #9376 by konza63
LOL, Corpus, great minds think alike! I forwarded that very item to my brother earlier this morning. I love that song, and could watch and listen to the raw yet fantastic rooftop concert in full all day long.

As I'm sure you know, he also famously played keys on Get Back (and other tunes off of Let It Be and Abbey Road for the Beatles), as well as songs by Clapton, the Stones, George Harrison,and others. I loved his solo work as well, and must've played the 45 single "Will It Go Round In Circles" a gazillion times in my youth!

It's good to know I'm not alone in my admiration of Billy's talent. And now we'll get to enjoy the "other" Billy Preston exhibiting his craft at KU!

“With kindest regards to Dr. Forrest C. Allen, the father of basketball coaching, from the father of the game.”

1936 inscription on the portrait of Dr. Naismith, displayed above Phog Allen's office desk at KU.
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2 years 10 months ago - 2 years 10 months ago #9745 by HawkErrant
Origin post updated for available recruiting info as of Dec 5.
Includes signing of PF Billy Preston (Rivals #8 ) and PG Marcus Garrett (#37), and moves prior recruits signed elsewhere or not interested in KU to former recruits listing.

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2 years 10 months ago #9851 by HawkErrant
Everybody talks about Rivals, ESPN and Scout all the time. Their sites are fine and offer varying levels of detail, but they can be a mess to wade through (which is why I like to consolidate things here). But if all you are looking for is a minimalist snapshot of KU recruit names for the current and next two recruiting seasons, it is hard to beat the "Position" by "Season/Scholarships" tables published by Verbal Commits. We've talked about them here in the past for the ease of use in getting basic info.

Here's the link to their KANSAS MBB page -- verbalcommits.com/schools/kansas

The page seems empty when it first loads, but page down and you will see the aforementioned table for KU.

Enjoy and ROCK CHALK!

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2 years 9 months ago #10143 by HawkErrant
Ups the ante to 5 open scholarships (3 without commitments) for this recruiting season.
www2.kusports.com/news/2016/dec/31/ku-tr...ell-leaving-program/

Best of luck to the young man.
OP updated to reflect this news.

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2 years 9 months ago #10259 by HawkErrant
Updating the OP per the post by gorillahawk (with assist from porthawk): Arizona State transfer Freshman SG Sam Cunliffe (6-6/195, #36 in Rivals 150 for 2016) committed to KU today.

He will enroll for this spring, sit out through the end of the Fall 2017 semester, then be able to play through AY2020-21 if he stays to use all his eligibility. That's a possible 3.5 years in C&B.

Now we need to get another point guard (hello, Trae Young!) and another big to replace the departing LL (I'm not aware of who that might be at this point), and all 5 known available rides will have been taken.

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2 years 9 months ago #10447 by HawkErrant
Arizona State transfer Sam Cunliffe made his transfer to KU official last Thursday. Welcome aboard, Sam! We look forward to seeing you in time for conference play next season!

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2 years 9 months ago - 2 years 6 months ago #10450 by HawkErrant
Here is the link to ESPN's tracking list for this season's college transfers .

The observant reader will note that it has not been updated in the last few days as Sam Cunliffe is not noted as transferring to KANSAS.

We seldom get word on transfers until they are almost, if not actually, a fait accompli (e.g., Cunliffe), but it's a little something to look at as far as opportunities to land another big for next year for go with Udoka, Billy Preston, Carlton Bragg, Mitch Lightfoot and Dwight Coleby.

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2 years 9 months ago #10524 by HawkErrant
Culling this from the ESPN listing in the link:

CENTERS
Dante Williams , currently >gasp< KState
At present the only center on the list that is still looking. He was a Rivals 3 star out of HS , and comparing ESPN player stats to his Rivals data he has grown two inches (ESPN lists as 7-0) and has put on 30 pounds since his HS days.

POWER FORWARDS
Not really anyone on the list worth looking at from the quick research I did.

The one guy who looked interesting was Austin Nichols, a graduate transfer from Virginia (a 5 star out of HS, #17 in the 2013 Rivals150 who originally signed with Memphis), but UVa dismissed him back in November for violating team rules. Would be surprised if Self tried to get him, despite his decent #s (13 points and 6 rebounds per game in 29 minutes/game his sophomore season at Memphis, 11-3 in his short time at UVa.) KU was checking into him when he was transferring from Memphis to UVa, but I've read some comments to his being a sort of head case, so who knows if Self & Co might be interested now?

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2 years 8 months ago #11418 by HawkErrant
Five star PG Trae Young is to announce his decision (KU, OU or Ok St) Thursday, 2017-02-16 (today as I type this) at noon CT.

It's rated a toss up between KU and OU, but general impression I am getting from perusing the Slant and 247Sports is that OU has the edge.

A Norman OK kid, he could be the hometown hero and the starting PG from day 1.

Or he could come to KU as Frank's replacement, with every chance to play if he proves he's up to the job, and lead the team to it's next Big 12 title and possibly an NCAA crown.

Word is Dad likes KU, but Mom and Trae favor OU.

If he should choose KU, Self & Co will have one remaining scholarship to fill out of the 5 projected to be available after this spring.

We shall know soon enough.

The OP has been updated for all the current recruit decisions to date and remaining known KU offers. I'll update it again later Thursday (today) upon learning Young's decision.

ROCK CHALK!
(and fingers crossed we get Young, If not, we are still in the running for five star PG Trevon Duval)

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