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Bill Self W-L Record AY2022-23

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3 months 4 weeks ago - 3 months 2 days ago #29135 by HawkErrant
er, that is to say ROCK CHALK! JAYHAWK! K U!

This origin post for AY2022-23 serves to prepare the way for that campaign, in which it is possible that BILL SELF just might pass the immortal PHOG ALLEN as the winningest head coach in KANSAS history!

It will take another fantastic year, but it is possible.

The AY2021-22 thread can be found at this link.

at KU ... NAME ........... ( % ) . CAREER ( % )
590-219 Phog Allen.... (.729) 746-264 . (.739)
556-124 BILL SELF..... (.818) 763-229 . (.769)
418-101 Roy Williams (.808) 903-264 . (.774)

34 = Wins to tie Phog as winningest Head Coach in KANSAS history.*
140 = Wins to tie Roy as THE winningest KANSAS Head Coach for TOTAL CAREER

(This section seldom changes during the course of the season, but is copied in each new post for easy reference.)
Last Update: 2022-04-12

With AY2021-22's 34-6 record and NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP, Bill is now mathematically positioned to pass Phog by the end of the AY2022-23 postseason. It would require winning 35 games in AY2022-23. In his 19 years at KANSAS Bill's teams have won 68 games or more in two consecutive seasons just twice, so the odds are against him racking up 35 Ws for AY2022-23.

("Odds?!? We don't need no stinking odds!")

70 wins AY2006-07 and AY2007-08
68 wins AY2009-10 and AY2010-11
67 wins AY2010-11 and AY2011-12
64 wins (a) AY2007-08 and AY 2008-09 (b) AY2015-16 and AY2016-17
63 wins AY2011-12 and AY2012-13
62 wins AY2016-17 and AY2017-18

Despite the NCAA case still not being settled as I write this, the new lifetime contract already seems to be having a positive impact on recruiting if having the Rivals #3 recruiting class for 2022 is any indication. And while freshman are always a question mark, it certainly helps to have high ranking talent coming in to backfill the losses from the AY2021-22 team.

But given all the above, and not wanting to jinx the whole thing from the outset, my "Pass Year" projection for Bill passing Phog is going to be next season, AY2023-24.


Even when the day comes that Bill passes Phog's totals to become the winningest coach in KANSAS history, he will still be the 2nd winningest men's basketball coach (for his whole career) to ever coach at KANSAS.

Roy only stayed at KU long enough to record a 418-101 KANSAS record, but he went on to pass Phog in Career wins with his alma mater. Roy (who turned 71 in August 2021) retired April 1, 2021 with a career record of 903-264 (.774) after 33 seasons as the head coach of both KANSAS (15 years , 418-101, .805) and the tarred ones (18 years, 485-163, .748).

Bill (who turns 60 in December 2022) still has a long way to go after 29 seasons (conservatively another 6 seasons if he averages 25 wins per season) to catch and pass Roy in total career wins and be the winningest head coach ever to coach at KANSAS.

How much longer will Bill Self coach?
I'd love to see him coach for another 10 seasons (starting with this season) for 39 total seasons coaching, retiring at 70 in 2033 and winning over 1000 games in his career.

But what does Bill think, you say?

KC Star: KU coach Bill Self addresses NBA rumors: ‘I look forward to being here for a long time’ by Sam Mellinger.


KUSports.com - Tait: Kansas basketball coach Bill Self signs lifetime contract extension with KU (2021-04-02)

AY2021-22 final record was 34-6

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