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I cannot believe this is what Kansas basketball has fallen to. Disgusting and embarrassing.
We’re becoming Indiana.
“With kindest regards to Dr. Forrest C. Allen, the father of basketball coaching, from the father of the game.”
1936 inscription on the portrait of Dr. Naismith, displayed above Phog Allen's office desk at KU.
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A Valliant effort if not too little too late.
I'll surf now and then until next season.
Read you all then,
RCJHFL
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At that point, there was nothing - nada, zilch, squat - positive to discern or hang one's hat on. And until that point, it had been some of the ugliest, most gnarly and nauseating basketball on display that I can recall from any KU team. A gazillion unforced errors, terrible energy, zero flow or design or rhythm to the offense, putrid shooting, and horrible finishes at the rim. (Just imagine if Elmarko and Bry, I think it was?, don't clank their easy dunks on the rim, resulting in 4 missed easy points in those instances)
I just wanted to provide the timing context for the post, because otherwise anyone might come on here and think I posted that right after the final buzzer. Nope. Sadly, the little flourish where we came back only raised expectations to have them obliterated with the non-defense by Elmarko on the closing, fateful, Edney-like final layup dagger. Basically ensuring that all KU fans died not one basketball death yesterday but two - the initial blowout then the heartbreaker after the comeback.
Ugh. Still in a funk today after that spectacle yesterday.
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1936 inscription on the portrait of Dr. Naismith, displayed above Phog Allen's office desk at KU.
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konza63 wrote: Just for timing context, I crafted my original post with around 7 minutes remaining in the game, with St. John's up by 13, and with KU's beyond-anemic offense having only mustered 45 points. ...
...Sadly, the little flourish where we came back only raised expectations to have them obliterated with the non-defense by Elmarko on the closing, fateful, Edney-like final layup dagger. Basically ensuring that all KU fans died not one basketball death yesterday but two - the initial blowout then the heartbreaker after the comeback.
Ugh. Still in a funk today after that spectacle yesterday.
I see "spectacle" and usually think of a positive event. Too bad not in this case.
I will add that I did NOT watch anymore of the game after early in H2, so I was quite surprised when I checked the score to see we had come all the way back. Only to lose on a last second layup? Hmph, that did NOT surprise me.
I will note that I have read others comments elsewhere that Peterson was as much to blame for that layup as Elmarko, as DP was supposed to close on the driver if he drove right, and DP did not do so. The posters writing such comments I generally consider to be pretty heady in their understanding of the game, so I guess that in the end our guys lived by DP and died by DP.
And a Self inflicted judgement call by benching a highly performing Kohl Rosario (as I understand it playing VERY well in the comeback) for his "security blanket" player Elmarko, who has been anything but.
Such decision making has me wondering if Self will be going back to look at the game and question the decisions he made, balancing what he was thinking at the time, replacing a guy who was getting things done with a guy who simply has not done so of late. Self of all people should know you go with the guy who is playing well, even if he is not your security blanket. I still have nightmares of Self substituting security blanket Dajuan Harris for Remy Martin with :04 left on the game clock and Dajuan promptly turning the ball over by stepping out of bounds, giving Caleb Love one last errant shot that would have tied the game for UNC.
I know that konza63 and I are in agreement that the only thing certain about Elmarko was the uncertainty -- and in the end that was not even true, because Elmarko messed up time and again as we thought he would but hoped he wouldn't (emphasizing once again that "hope" is not a plan). If he returns he really has to find himself some hoops IQ and work on his scoring. When he first came to KU I had a lot of slack in my expectations of him as he did not take up hoops until late in HS, but this was his 3rd year with KU and yes, he has greatly improved - which only underscores how much he had to learn and still has to learn.
I don't know, I'm just a frustrated fan blowing off some steam while we wait to see if Bill is going to be back next year or not.
I do NOT see a prolonged, Roy Williams style indecision (2000 and 2003 redux) here. I think Bill will sit down with Cindy and Goff (in whatever order, who knows) to make his decision, but I do believe it will be HIS decision and he will make it soon to help set the stage for 2026 spring-summer recruiting and next year's team.
Rock Chalk!
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