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1 day 7 hours ago #34891
by asteroid
(in my best Kosh) And so it begins.
The latest Pomeroy ratings favor Kansas by 12 points over California Baptist.
Only once did the Lancers play above expectation by more than 12 points out of
33 games for a 3 percent chance of beating the Jayhawks, though they played
another five games 10 to 11 points above expectation, suggesting that they
could make things uncomfortable for Jayhawk fans. Of course, Kansas has played
more than 12 points below expectation on four occasions during the season, three
of those coming in the last seven games, corresponding to a 12 percent chance of
losing. Average those two and you get a 7.6 percent chance of Kansas going home
after Friday's game.
With the current WAC having only seven teams, you have to play your six opponents
three times apiece to have an 18 game conference season. Add in the conference
tournament, and Cal Baptist has played a couple of teams four times, meaning less
exposure to different styles of play. That could work in the Jayhawks' favor.
Pomeroy ranks their offense #191, which is below the Division I median, while
their defense is their calling card, ranked #50. Their tempo ranks #265, for
which the closest Big XII comparison would be Utah.
There are actually three common opponents, as Cal Baptist ended their non-conference
slate with three Big XII teams, namely Colorado, BYU, and Utah. Those were the
Lancers' first three losses of the season. The score comparisons favor Kansas by
over 18 points, but that is not the most favorable of the various prognostications.
Dunkel is picking the Jayhawks by 23 points, but that's Dunkel. Colley's more
RPI-like ranking system, which rewards good win-loss records, ranks CBU at #71,
the highest of any of the power rankings tabulated below, which translates into a
margin of just 9 points. But that is not the most pessimistic of the prognostications.
Don Davis' system is picking the Jayhawks by only 8 points. The average is 13.6
points, with a scatter of 3.7 points.
Is Kansas better without Peterson? Over the time Peterson has been "healthy", which
I'll take to be the time since he played less than 20 minutes (only 18 minutes against
Oklahoma State), Kansas has played seven games, with the following results:
Peterson plays 32 minutes, Jayhawks play 24 points below expectation (Cincinnati)
Peterson plays 30 minutes, Jayhawks play 15 points above expectation (Houston, Big Monday)
Peterson plays 31 minutes, Jayhawks play 10 points below expectation (Arizona)
Peterson plays 34 minutes, Jayhawks play 15 points below expectation (Arizona State)
Peterson plays 29 minutes, Jayhawks play 3 points above expectation (Kansas State, Senior Night)
Peterson plays 37 minutes, Jayhawks play 0 points below expectation (TCU, Big XII tournament)
Peterson plays 28 minutes, Jayhawks play 16 points below expectation (Houston, Big XII tournament)
That's four really bad performances, and two so-so performances, one of which was on
Senior Night, when other emotions come into play, and the other was in the Big XII
tournament, which carries somewhat different pressure. The outlier is the home
Big Monday game, for which Self has an incredible 41-0 record. Obviously, the overall
poor showing with a healthy Peterson isn't due to lack of skill, as the guy is talented.
What it suggests is that the Jayhawks have not yet learned how to play with Peterson,
and Peterson hasn't learned how to play with the rest of the Jayhawks. We hoped that
there might be enough time for the learning procecss to occur before the post-season,
but there is little evidence to suggest that it has occurred. We can hope that the
brighter lights and bigger stage of the Big Dance will trigger an epiphany, or it could
turn into a one-man show trying to strut his stuff for the NBA scouts. If the former
turns out to be the case, Kansas could still win a National Championship. In the
espn.com article that shows Jay Bilas' picks for every tournament game, he wrote
"Though Kansas can beat anyone, the Jayhawks can also lose to just about anyone.
And St. John's isn't just anyone. Winner: St. John's" That pretty much sums things
up. Double-team, triple-team Peterson, and dare everyone else to beat you. They can,
as the win over Arizona demonstrated. But insert Peterson into the lineup and the
offense sputters. But Kansas can't really afford to not play Peterson. We just saw
what happened to North Carolina. Davis played only six Tar Heels in the second half,
and they ran out of gas. In the overtime, they had no legs and missed all eight of
their field goal attempts. The only points they scored came at the charity stripe,
where they went three for four. Only 3 points in a 5 minute overtime. That's like
scoring only 24 points in regulation. Self has been playing only seven Jayhawks for
the most part. He can probably afford to go a little deeper into the bench against
the Lancers, and everybody has had a week between games, so today's game shouldn't
be a big problem, but we should be prepared to see a bit more of Rosario and Dawson
moving forward.
Rock Chalk!
Greenfield Stats Comparison
===========================
Offensive Stats CBU KU Defensive Stats CBU KU
Points/Game 73.0 75.6 Opp Points/Game 67.6 69.4
Avg Score Margin +5.5 +6.2 Opp Effective FG % 46.4 45.2
Assists/Game 10.3 14.3 Off Rebounds/Gm 11.8 9.0
Total Rebounds/Gm 39.9 38.8 Def Rebounds/Gm 24.0 26.9
Effective FG % 48.6 51.6 Blocks/Game 2.9 5.7
Off Rebound % 36.0 28.0 Steals/Game 5.5 5.5
FTA/FGA 0.361 0.326 Personal Fouls/Gm 18.7 14.4
Turnover % 15.1 13.4
My Stats Comparison KU CBU
=================== ============= ============
performance +0.84 +0.30
inconsistency 11.07 9.63
trend -0.27 ± 0.20 +0.21 ± 0.18
mental toughness -0.31 ± 0.21 -0.01 ± 0.21
average total pts 145.30 140.61
total pts reg 143.75 138.31
Common Opponents
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There are three common opponents:
KU +6 CU on road (+10 neutral court)
CBU -8 CU on road ( -4 neutral court)
KU +14 CBU neutral (+14 neutral court)
KU +8 BYU at home ( +4 neutral court)
CBU -31 BYU on road (-27 neutral court)
KU +31 CBU neutral (+31 neutral court)
KU +12 UU at home ( +8 neutral court)
CBU -6 UU on road ( -2 neutral court)
KU +10 CBU neutral (+10 neutral court)
All three comparisons favor Kansas by an average of 18.33 points, with a scatter of
11.15 points.
Players to Watch
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most minutes Dominique Daniels Jr. (guard)
most points Dominique Daniels Jr. (guard)
most rebounds Thomas Ndong (forward)
most assists Dominique Daniels Jr. (guard)
most steals Devon Malcolm (forward)
most blocks Jonathan Griman (forward)
most turnovers Dominique Daniels Jr. (guard)
most fouls Jonathan Griman (forward)
23-9 25-8
Margin Predicted Win Prb Kansas Cal Baptist
Predictor points Score percent Rating SOS Rating SOS
==================== ====== ========= ======= ============ ============
Massey +15.00 76 61 94 # 18 # 4 #102 #156
Pomeroy +12.00 75 63 87.2 # 21 # 1 #106 #204
Greenfield +14.50 75.5 61 # 21 # 9 #127 #151
Dunkel +23.00 83 60 93.1 # 23 # 77
Vegas (via Dunkel) +13.50 76 62
Dolphin Predictive +14.48 76 61 90.5 # 22 # 6 #109 #154
DPPI +8.10 74.5 66 72.3 # 23 # 1 #116 #203
ESPN Bet/BPI +14.50 76.5 62 # 22 # 3 #137 #224
Whitlock +11.28 # 19 # 1 #100 #147
Colley Matrix +9.14 # 15 # 1 # 71 #204
Donchess +13.40 76 63 91.0 # 21 # 1 #109 #190
Haslametrics +12.55 74 61 # 25 #102
INCCStats +14.00 74 60 90 # 21 #112
common opponents +18.33
trend and mental +9.93
NCAA NET # 21 # 98
LRMC # 23 # 4 #139 #230
Massey composite # 18 # 93
Pomeroy offense # 57 #191
Pomeroy defense # 10 # 50
Pomeroy tempo #164 #265
==================== ====== ========= ======= ============ ============
average +13.58 76.1 61.8 88.3
scatter 3.66 2.5 1.7 7.4
Here is Kansas' season, with the highest seeds chosen as the most likely opponents
in later rounds of the NCAA tournament, should Kansas advance (indicating a 0.16
percent chance of winning the championship):
SITE OPPONENT SCORE PREDIC ERROR PROB.
---- ----------------------------- ------- ------ ----- -----
HOME #210 Green Bay 94 51 +20.88 +22.12
AWAY # 29 North Carolina 74 87 -1.14 -11.86
HOME #174 Texas A&M Corpus Chris 77 46 +19.65 +11.35
HOME #252 Princeton 76 57 +23.38 -4.38
NEUT # 1 Duke 66 78 -9.38 -2.62
NEUT # 89 Notre Dame 71 61 +10.12 -0.12
NEUT # 83 Syracuse 71 60 +9.82 +1.18
NEUT # 16 Tennessee 81 76 -1.09 +6.09
HOME # 11 Connecticut 56 61 +1.27 -6.27
NEUT # 52 Missouri 80 69 +5.90 +5.10
AWAY # 34 N.C. State 77 76 -0.21 +1.21
HOME #157 Towson 73 49 +18.20 +5.80
HOME #114 Davidson 90 61 +15.78 +13.22
AWAY # 54 UCF 75 81 +2.88 -8.88
HOME # 43 TCU 104 100 +8.06 -4.06
AWAY # 59 West Virginia 75 86 +3.34 -14.34
HOME # 6 Iowa St. 84 63 -1.77 +22.77
HOME # 49 Baylor 80 62 +9.14 +8.86
AWAY # 70 Colorado 75 69 +4.88 +1.12
AWAY #101 Kansas St. 86 62 +9.10 +14.90
HOME # 23 BYU 90 82 +4.26 +3.74
AWAY # 20 Texas Tech 64 61 -4.02 +7.02
HOME #126 Utah 71 59 +17.04 -5.04
HOME # 2 Arizona 82 78 -5.70 +9.70
AWAY # 6 Iowa St. 56 74 -8.77 -9.23
AWAY # 66 Oklahoma St. 81 69 +4.93 +7.07
HOME # 44 Cincinnati 68 84 +8.12 -24.12
HOME # 5 Houston 69 56 -2.21 +15.21
AWAY # 2 Arizona 61 84 -12.70 -10.30
AWAY # 67 Arizona St. 60 70 +4.59 -14.59
HOME #101 Kansas St. 104 85 +16.10 +2.90 CUMU.
NEUT # 43 TCU 78 73 +4.56 +0.44 PROB.
NEUT # 5 Houston 47 69 -5.71 -16.29 -----
NEUT #106 Cal Baptist 75 63 +12.00 0.872 0.872
NEUT # 17 St. John's 74 75 -1.03 0.461 0.402
NEUT # 1 Duke 66 76 -9.38 0.188 0.076
NEUT # 11 Connecticut 68 71 -2.23 0.416 0.031
NEUT # 4 Florida 73 80 -6.57 0.267 0.008
NEUT # 2 Arizona 71 81 -9.20 0.192 0.002
Here is California Baptist's season:
SITE OPPONENT SCORE PREDIC ERROR PROB.
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HOME #302 USC Upstate 87 75 +15.48 -3.48
AWAY #104 UC Irvine 69 61 -3.63 +11.63
HOME #364 Western Illinois 69 59 +25.55 -15.55
HOME #258 UC Riverside 80 57 +12.54 +10.46
HOME #298 Grambling St. 72 59 +15.04 -2.04
NEUT #224 San Diego 76 61 +7.22 +7.78
AWAY #177 Oregon St. 75 69 +0.64 +5.36
AWAY # 70 Colorado 70 78 -7.54 -0.46
AWAY # 23 BYU 60 91 -15.18 -15.82
AWAY #126 Utah 85 91 -2.04 -3.96
AWAY #171 Eastern Washington 88 83 +0.41 +4.59
HOME #279 Southern 75 67 +14.17 -6.17
HOME #265 Sacramento St. 74 67 +13.40 -6.40
AWAY # 90 Utah Valley 66 73 -5.36 -1.64
AWAY #154 UT Arlington 51 63 -0.44 -11.56
AWAY #221 Tarleton St. 76 81 +3.45 -8.45
HOME #188 Utah Tech 84 72 +8.55 +3.45
HOME #251 Southern Utah 58 55 +12.45 -9.45
AWAY #242 Abilene Christian 74 58 +4.68 +11.32
HOME #188 Utah Tech 73 64 +8.55 +0.45
HOME # 90 Utah Valley 78 71 +1.64 +5.36
AWAY #154 UT Arlington 87 77 -0.44 +10.44
HOME #221 Tarleton St. 56 55 +10.45 -9.45
HOME #242 Abilene Christian 65 63 +11.68 -9.68
AWAY #251 Southern Utah 83 66 +5.45 +11.55
AWAY #188 Utah Tech 65 70 +1.55 -6.55
AWAY # 90 Utah Valley 46 65 -5.36 -13.64
HOME #154 UT Arlington 68 56 +6.56 +5.44
HOME #221 Tarleton St. 82 67 +10.45 +4.55
HOME #242 Abilene Christian 87 48 +11.68 +27.32
AWAY #251 Southern Utah 82 75 +5.45 +1.55
NEUT #188 Utah Tech 86 72 +5.05 +8.95
NEUT # 90 Utah Valley 63 61 -1.86 +3.86
NEUT # 21 Kansas 63 75 -12.00 0.128
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14 hours 17 minutes ago #34907
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"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain "Innocents Abroad"
Thank you once again, my fellow B5 fan.
I leave you tonight with this..,
“ Let me pass on to you the one thing I've learned about this place. No one here is exactly what he appears.”
I leave you tonight with this..,
“ Let me pass on to you the one thing I've learned about this place. No one here is exactly what he appears.”
"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain "Innocents Abroad"
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