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4 days 18 hours ago #34333
by asteroid
We just came out of a power outage here, so I'm way behind schedule and
will keep this short.
TCU is a real head-scratcher. They lost to New Orleans, barely a middle
tier opponent, but beat Florida. They came within 4 points of Michigan,
who has beaten all of their subsequent opponents by at least 18, but lost
at home to a Notre Dame squad that Kansas handled by 10. They played four
teams in the Top 100 during the non-conference portion of their schedule,
but Pomeroy isn't impressed, ranking their strength of schedule way down
at #302. Yes, they're 3 points less consistent than Kansas.
Now that Big XII teams need to make the availability of their players a
known commodity something like 90 minutes before tip-off, we'll presumably
know later today if Peterson's leg is still bothering him. Even if not,
and he starts, the leg could start bothering him later in the game, so
the number of minutes he plays is still a guessing game.
Nobody is picking TCU in this game. Kansas has a pretty strong record in
Allen Field House. The average of fourteen prognostications favors Kansas
by just under 10 points.
I've removed Real Time from the table below, as the web page remains stuck
on last season. I've also removed Seven Overtimes, whose web site keep
redirecting to Pomeroy's. For now I'm keeping LRMC, because they have a
history of not getting on board until just before tournament time.
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Greenfield Stats Comparison
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Offensive Stats TCU KU Defensive Stats TCU KU
Points/Game 79.5 75.8 Opp Points/Game 64.6 64.6
Avg Score Margin +14.9 +11.2 Opp Effective FG % 47.5 42.5
Assists/Game 16.7 15.4 Off Rebounds/Gm 10.3 8.4
Total Rebounds/Gm 36.4 40.1 Def Rebounds/Gm 22.8 28.2
Effective FG % 52.7 53.3 Blocks/Game 5.6 6.3
Off Rebound % 34.0 27.4 Steals/Game 8.2 5.2
FTA/FGA 0.361 0.327 Personal Fouls/Gm 15.8 14.4
Turnover % 13.6 13.9
My Stats Comparison KU TCU
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performance +1.74 +3.17
inconsistency 8.65 11.60
trend -0.10 ± 0.60 +0.64 ± 0.78
mental toughness -0.54 ± 0.19 +0.08 ± 0.24
average total pts 141.00 144.07
Common Opponents
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There is one common opponent, namely Notre Dame:
KU +10 ND neutral (+10 neutral court)
TCU -2 ND at home ( -6 neutral court)
KU +20 TCU at home (+16 neutral court)
It should be noted that TCU's game against Notre Dame required overtime
to resolve. If attention were to be restricted to regulation, then the
differential would be zero and the comparison with Kansas reduced to 18.
Players to Watch
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most minutes Brock Harding (guard)
most points David Punch (forward)
most rebounds David Punch (forward)
most assists Brock Harding (guard)
most steals Brock Harding (guard)
most blocks David Punch (forward)
most turnovers Brock Harding (guard)
most fouls Xavier Edmonds (forward)
Reserve center Vianney Salatchoum is questionable for the game. He averages
1.4 points, 1.6 rebounds, and 1.1 fouls in 7.1 minutes per game.
10-4 11-3
Margin Predicted Win Prb Kansas TCU
Predictor points Score percent Rating SOS Rating SOS
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Massey +8.00 74 66 79 # 19 # 4 # 45 # 75
Pomeroy +9.74 75 66 82.1 # 18 # 2 # 53 #302
Greenfield +7.50 73 66 # 18 # 7 # 45 # 54
Dunkel +10.50 78 68 79.6 # 26 # 60
Vegas (via Dunkel) +6.50 73 67
Dolphin Predictive +9.12 73 64 79.0 # 15 # 4 # 43 # 58
DPPI +8.90 75 66 75.9 # 16 # 2 # 38 #196
ESPN Bet/BPI +7.50 73.5 66 # 16 # 4 # 54 #149
Whitlock +9.68 # 16 # 4 # 58 # 89
Colley Matrix +10.68 # 22 # 8 # 82 #274
Donchess +9.70 76 66 81.7 # 22 # 2 # 50 #152
Haslametrics +11.21 75 64 # 18 # 54
INCCStats +8.00 73 65 78.1 # 18 # 45
common opponents +20.00
NCAA NET # 17 # 47
LRMC # # # #
Massey composite # 17 # 49
Pomeroy offense # 54 #111
Pomeroy defense # 7 # 20
Pomeroy tempo #205 #237
==================== ====== ========= ======= ============ ============
average +9,79 74.4 65.8 79.3
scatter 3.24 1.6 1.2 2.1
Here is Kansas' season, for which the projected record is currently 20-11:
SITE OPPONENT SCORE PREDIC ERROR PROB.
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HOME #243 Green Bay 94 51 +23.40 +19.60
AWAY # 29 North Carolina 74 87 -1.35 -11.65
HOME #179 Texas A&M Corpus Chris 77 46 +20.98 +10.02
HOME #249 Princeton 76 57 +24.23 -5.23
NEUT # 9 Duke 66 78 -3.41 -8.59
NEUT # 58 Notre Dame 71 61 +7.04 +2.96
NEUT # 84 Syracuse 71 60 +9.18 +1.82
NEUT # 16 Tennessee 81 76 -0.27 +5.27
HOME # 7 Connecticut 56 61 -0.65 -4.35
NEUT # 60 Missouri 80 69 +7.35 +3.65
AWAY # 32 N.C. State 77 76 -0.35 +1.35
HOME #174 Towson 73 49 +19.31 +4.69
HOME #130 Davidson 90 61 +16.93 +12.07
AWAY # 42 UCF 75 81 +1.24 -7.24
HOME # 53 TCU 75 66 +9.74 0.821
AWAY # 69 West Virginia 70 66 +4.27 0.657
HOME # 3 Iowa St. 74 78 -3.51 0.370
HOME # 33 Baylor 84 77 +6.70 0.737
AWAY # 83 Colorado 83 77 +5.77 0.707
AWAY # 72 Kansas St. 84 79 +5.65 0.703
HOME # 10 BYU 79 78 +0.68 0.525
AWAY # 20 Texas Tech 75 78 -2.76 0.397
HOME #128 Utah 87 69 +17.71 0.953
HOME # 2 Arizona 76 80 -3.98 0.353
AWAY # 3 Iowa St. 70 81 -10.51 0.160
AWAY # 66 Oklahoma St. 86 81 +5.22 0.689
HOME # 65 Cincinnati 76 65 +11.65 0.865
HOME # 11 Houston 70 68 +1.40 0.553
AWAY # 2 Arizona 73 84 -10.98 0.150
AWAY # 85 Arizona St. 81 75 +6.24 0.722
HOME # 72 Kansas St. 88 75 +12.65 0.884
Here is TCU's season:
SITE OPPONENT SCORE PREDIC ERROR PROB.
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HOME #219 New Orleans 74 78 +16.79 -20.79
HOME #362 Saint Francis 104 63 +31.18 +9.82
HOME #239 Lamar 78 65 +17.21 -4.21
HOME # 1 Michigan 63 67 -14.70 +10.70
HOME #329 Kansas City 81 45 +24.30 +11.70
NEUT # 15 Florida 84 80 -7.68 +11.68
NEUT # 44 Wisconsin 74 63 -1.19 +12.19
HOME # 58 Notre Dame 85 87 +4.47 -6.47
NEUT #133 North Texas 65 55 +7.30 +2.70
HOME #173 Incarnate Word 69 65 +13.92 -9.92
HOME #293 Oral Roberts 72 53 +20.92 -1.92
HOME #340 Florida A&M 80 56 +25.70 -1.70
HOME #344 Jackson St. 115 64 +26.12 +24.88
HOME # 33 Baylor 69 63 +0.26 +5.74
AWAY # 18 Kansas 66 75 -9.74 0.179
HOME # 2 Arizona 71 82 -10.53 0.160
AWAY # 10 BYU 71 83 -12.80 0.113
AWAY #128 Utah 79 74 +4.18 0.654
HOME # 66 Oklahoma St. 84 79 +5.27 0.691
AWAY # 33 Baylor 75 82 -6.74 0.262
HOME # 11 Houston 65 70 -4.44 0.337
AWAY # 83 Colorado 78 79 -0.79 0.470
HOME # 72 Kansas St. 83 77 +5.82 0.709
HOME # 3 Iowa St. 69 79 -9.83 0.176
AWAY # 66 Oklahoma St. 81 83 -1.73 0.435
AWAY # 42 UCF 75 80 -5.23 0.311
HOME # 69 West Virginia 69 64 +5.38 0.694
HOME # 85 Arizona St. 80 73 +6.69 0.736
AWAY # 72 Kansas St. 80 81 -1.18 0.456
AWAY # 20 Texas Tech 71 80 -8.99 0.198
HOME # 65 Cincinnati 72 67 +5.10 0.685
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4 days 6 hours ago #34335
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Whoever ESPN uses for the odds have Jayhawks -7; over/under is 139.5 (73.25 to 66.25)...pretty close.
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4 days 3 hours ago #34336
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Down by 12 at home, this team is not going anywhere anytime soon.
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4 days 2 hours ago #34337
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Hope you didn't turn it off (I almost did). It was an amazing comeback, but TCU panic was as much a factor as KU sprint.
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3 days 18 hours ago #34338
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USAF— I flipped over to watch the local Chicago news, and then switched back when they cut it down to 3 after Flory’s tip in. Hopefully, HCBS’s comments about the team becoming a team are true, because they stunk for 35 minutes. AFH does that to a lot of teams. The @WVU game will tell a lot about this team’s trajectory.
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3 days 11 hours ago #34339
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"When I was a freshman, I remember Coach Naismith telling us how important it was to play good defense." - Mitch Lightfoot
Agreed, quite a comeback, but as much a result of TCU losing their composure as it was KU getting it done.
While I love that we won (I almost turned it off) I have very mixed feelings about Peterson. The guy is great and came through in the clutch, but he was also absent at a crucial time. Not sure what we can do about it, but we are now in the slog of conference play, so there are no more 2 week breaks to rest up. I don't see him getting healthier, but I'd sure like to be wrong.
While I love that we won (I almost turned it off) I have very mixed feelings about Peterson. The guy is great and came through in the clutch, but he was also absent at a crucial time. Not sure what we can do about it, but we are now in the slog of conference play, so there are no more 2 week breaks to rest up. I don't see him getting healthier, but I'd sure like to be wrong.
"When I was a freshman, I remember Coach Naismith telling us how important it was to play good defense." - Mitch Lightfoot
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