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1 day 19 minutes ago #34248
by asteroid
Yes, Kansas is the higher ranked team, according to all of the various
prognosticators that I follow, but the Jayhawks are on the road, and
is the ranking advantage enough to overcome the home court advantage
that the Wolfpack enjoy? Not according to most of the prognosticators.
Then again, the ranking for Kansas has largely been determined without
Peterson, and surely he is worth a few more points, right? Just how
many extra points does Kansas need to come out on top? Not many.
With the not-too-surprising exception of Dunkel, every prediction is
within 3 points. In other words, a one-possession game. Dunkel is
picking the Jayhawks by 7. Maybe he's expecting Peterson to play.
The average favors the Wolfpack by a tenth of a point.
North Carolina State has played five opponents ranked in the triple
digits and played double digits above expectation in four of them,
soaring above the century mark in two of them. Against the five
strongest opponents, the Wolfpack played below expectation in four
of them, leading to a statistically significant negative mental
toughess rating. That bodes well for Kansas. Then again, the
Jayhawks also have a negative mental toughness rating, due to
playing below expectation against Duke, Connecticut, and North
Carolina. But remember, when playing a weaker team than yourself,
a negative mental toughness rating helps in that a negative value
means you play better against the weaker opponents and worse against
the stronger opponents. The win against Missouri has given Kansas a
positive trend, while NC State has a negative trend. Neither trend is
statistically significant, so don't read too much into that. Kansas
is the more consistent of the two teams by a large margin.
It will be interesting to see how Pomeroy's #17 offense does against
Pomeroy's #8 defense. NC State's lowest scoring game came against
the toughest opponent, based on Pomeroy's rankings (only 73 points
against #30 Auburn). But Auburn has only the #71 defense. Their
second-lowest scoring game came against #57 Seton Hall, which has
Pomeroy's #13 defense.
Something not reflected in the various statistics presented here is
the fact that North Carolina State is one of the worst teams in all
of Division I in terms of giving up fast-break points. They also
foul a lot, nearly 20 per game; the Jayhawks may be living at the
charity stripe.
Another story line worth noting is that Kansas really tried to land
Darrion Williams through the transfer portal, but couldn't seal the
deal. Now the Jayhawks have to play against him. It will be
interesting to see if the Jayhawks' Plan B, Tre White, will outplay
Williams. Or maybe not. But it would be pure schadenfreude if
White did.
Rock Chalk!
Greenfield Stats Comparison
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Offensive Stats NCST KU Defensive Stats NCST KU
Points/Game 88.8 74.6 Opp Points/Game 72.7 63.7
Avg Score Margin +16.1 +10.9 Opp Effective FG % 51.2 43.0
Assists/Game 16.9 14.6 Off Rebounds/Gm 8.7 8.1
Total Rebounds/Gm 36.2 39.1 Def Rebounds/Gm 24.7 27.4
Effective FG % 58.9 52.4 Blocks/Game 3.0 6.4
Off Rebound % 28.0 27.0 Steals/Game 8.3 4.7
FTA/FGA 0.376 0.382 Personal Fouls/Gm 19.9 15.4
Turnover % 12.5 14.1
My Stats Comparison KU NCST
=================== ============= ============
performance +2.35 +4.49
inconsistency 9.45 14.31
trend +0.14 ± 1.10 -1.17 ± 1.62
mental toughness -0.40 ± 0.25 -0.75 ± 0.38
average total pts 138.30 161.50
Common Opponents
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None.
Players to Watch
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most minutes Darrion Williams (forward)
most points Darrion Williams (forward)
most rebounds Ven-Allen Lubin (forward)
most assists Quadir Copeland (guard)
most steals Quadir Copeland (guard), Matt Able (guard)
most blocks four-way tie
most turnovers Quadir Copeland (guard)
most fouls Quadir Copeland (guard)
7-3 7-3
Margin Predicted Win Prb Kansas NC State
Predictor points Score percent Rating SOS Rating SOS
==================== ====== ========= ======= ============ ============
Massey +3.00 75 72 59 # 17 # 5 # 49 # 34
Pomeroy -1.19 77 78 45.5 # 17 # 6 # 28 # 63
Greenfield -3.00 74 77 # 19 # 7 # 26 # 27
Dunkel +7.00 75 68 47.2 # 27 # 63
Vegas (via Dunkel) -2.50 75 77
Dolphin Predictive +0.62 76 76 52.1 # 17 # 8 # 25 # 26
Seven Overtimes # # # #
Real Time # # # #
DPPI -2.30 74 76.5 43.5 # 15 # 4 # 25 # 45
ESPN Bet/BPI -2.50 74.5 77 # 20 # 7 # 25 # 19
Whitlock +0.12 # 17 # 5 # 39 # 37
Colley Matrix -0.83 # 48 # 16 # 81 # 86
Donchess +0.90 77 76 52.4 # 20 # 2 # 37 # 47
Haslametrics -0.12 77 77 # 19 # 32
INCCStats -1.00 76 77 47.9 # 17 # 28
common opponents
NCAA NET # 19 # 30
LRMC # # # #
Massey composite # 16 # 46
Pomeroy offense # 52 # 17
Pomeroy defense # 8 # 58
Pomeroy tempo #249 # 72
==================== ====== ========= ======= ============ ============
average -0.14 75.5 75.6 49.7
scatter 2.72 1.2 3.0 5.3
Here is Kansas' season, for which the projected record is currently 20-11:
SITE OPPONENT SCORE PREDIC ERROR PROB.
---- ----------------------------- ------- ------ ----- -----
HOME #277 Green Bay 94 51 +24.88 +18.12
AWAY # 24 North Carolina 74 87 -1.92 -11.08
HOME #219 Texas A&M Corpus Chris 77 46 +22.82 +8.18
HOME #267 Princeton 76 57 +24.78 -5.78
NEUT # 4 Duke 66 78 -5.87 -6.13
NEUT # 60 Notre Dame 71 61 +6.65 +3.35
NEUT # 67 Syracuse 71 60 +7.50 +3.50
NEUT # 18 Tennessee 81 76 +0.33 +4.67
HOME # 8 Connecticut 56 61 +0.32 -5.32
NEUT # 55 Missouri 80 60 +5.96 +14.04
AWAY # 28 N.C. State 77 78 -1.19 0.455
HOME #141 Towson 75 58 +17.21 0.948
HOME #134 Davidson 79 62 +17.06 0.947
AWAY # 53 UCF 78 76 +2.22 0.583
HOME # 58 TCU 76 66 +9.83 0.824
AWAY # 73 West Virginia 69 65 +3.90 0.644
HOME # 2 Iowa St. 72 75 -3.16 0.382
HOME # 33 Baylor 82 76 +6.57 0.733
AWAY # 62 Colorado 79 75 +3.69 0.636
AWAY # 79 Kansas St. 82 76 +5.84 0.710
HOME # 11 BYU 75 74 +0.85 0.532
AWAY # 19 Texas Tech 70 73 -2.63 0.402
HOME #122 Utah 84 67 +16.77 0.944
HOME # 6 Arizona 76 77 -1.10 0.459
AWAY # 2 Iowa St. 68 78 -10.16 0.168
AWAY # 50 Oklahoma St. 82 79 +2.54 0.595
HOME # 76 Cincinnati 75 63 +12.13 0.874
HOME # 10 Houston 67 66 +0.92 0.535
AWAY # 6 Arizona 73 81 -8.10 0.222
AWAY # 70 Arizona St. 76 72 +4.09 0.651
HOME # 79 Kansas St. 86 73 +12.84 0.888
Here is North Carolina State's season to date:
SITE OPPONENT SCORE PREDIC ERROR PROB.
---- ----------------------------- ------- ------ ----- -----
HOME #350 North Carolina Central 114 66 +31.13 +16.87
HOME #105 UAB 94 70 +13.45 +10.55
HOME #272 UNC Greensboro 110 64 +24.14 +21.86
HOME # 43 VCU 85 79 +6.22 -0.22
NEUT # 57 Seton Hall 74 85 +4.00 -15.00
NEUT # 44 Boise St. 81 70 +2.86 +8.14
NEUT # 46 Texas 97 102 +3.20 -8.20
AWAY # 30 Auburn 73 83 -3.36 -6.64
HOME #206 UNC Asheville 75 63 +20.74 -8.74
HOME #112 Liberty 85 45 +13.70 +26.30
HOME # 17 Kansas 78 77 +1.19 0.545
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