×
Rock Chalk Talk: Basketball
Anything pertaining to basketball: college, pro, HS, recruiting, TV coverage
Anything pertaining to basketball: college, pro, HS, recruiting, TV coverage
Michigan slapped on wrist; add those DeSousa games back
- HawkErrant
-
Topic Author
- Offline
- Moderator
-
- b82, g84 Lift the chorus...
Less
More
- Posts: 6837
- Thank you received: 5860
2 months 3 days ago #33940
by HawkErrant
"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain "Innocents Abroad"
www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id...re-ban-sign-stealing
No vacated wins. no postseason bans, Moore only has an additional game suspension.
Seems to me this lays the groundwork for a future suit to overturn the 2018 vacated games (20; WL 15-5, the vacated FF appearance, the vacated Big 12 title, the 14 straight conference titles, etc.)
Remember, the big issue in the penalties driving the vacated games penalty was the $3000 given to DeSousa’s manager that never got to DrSousa or his family. The final report specifically notes there was no evidence that anyone at KU had any knowledge of these payments.
If stealing signs helps you win games in your historic top 10 FB program and gets you to big dollar post season perch, that’s a much more significant violation than playing a player you benched until you had the NCAA’s blessing to play him. If the NCAA had not blessed him KU may or may not have won as many games as it did with him, but this issue would not have existed. Another classic NCAA faux pas. If they had done their job up front… but they did not…
It’s best to remember the excessive penalties the NCAA tried to slap on KU, and the reality that the IARP downgraded them and dismissed some, effectively acknowledging those excesses.
It will take time, though, IF KU should ever decide to pursue it,
And KU probably won’t.
If KU ever did, I can see waiting at least until the archaic minions at the NCAA are gone and cooler heads can review the provable facts AND analyze the NCAA’s historical overstepping attempts where KU has been involved.
No vacated wins. no postseason bans, Moore only has an additional game suspension.
Seems to me this lays the groundwork for a future suit to overturn the 2018 vacated games (20; WL 15-5, the vacated FF appearance, the vacated Big 12 title, the 14 straight conference titles, etc.)
Remember, the big issue in the penalties driving the vacated games penalty was the $3000 given to DeSousa’s manager that never got to DrSousa or his family. The final report specifically notes there was no evidence that anyone at KU had any knowledge of these payments.
If stealing signs helps you win games in your historic top 10 FB program and gets you to big dollar post season perch, that’s a much more significant violation than playing a player you benched until you had the NCAA’s blessing to play him. If the NCAA had not blessed him KU may or may not have won as many games as it did with him, but this issue would not have existed. Another classic NCAA faux pas. If they had done their job up front… but they did not…
It’s best to remember the excessive penalties the NCAA tried to slap on KU, and the reality that the IARP downgraded them and dismissed some, effectively acknowledging those excesses.
It will take time, though, IF KU should ever decide to pursue it,
And KU probably won’t.
If KU ever did, I can see waiting at least until the archaic minions at the NCAA are gone and cooler heads can review the provable facts AND analyze the NCAA’s historical overstepping attempts where KU has been involved.
"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain "Innocents Abroad"
The following user(s) said Thank You: Bayhawk, boulderhawk, porthawk
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
Share this page:
- USAF Jayhawk
-
- Offline
- Elite Member
-
Less
More
- Posts: 305
- Thank you received: 369
1 month 4 weeks ago #33942
by USAF Jayhawk
They won't appeal or sue...that was the agreement when they pushed the case to the IARP instead of letting NCAA rule. No appeals.
The following user(s) said Thank You: boulderhawk
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- HawkErrant
-
Topic Author
- Offline
- Moderator
-
- b82, g84 Lift the chorus...
Less
More
- Posts: 6837
- Thank you received: 5860
1 month 4 weeks ago #33944
by HawkErrant
I know.
And they probably won’t.
But I’m wouldn’t be surprised, given time and more NCAA faux pas, if one day someone at KU convinces them to try, Because the abuse and bias is so evident with other cases to hold up in comparison that some hotshot Jayhawk related attorney will want to pursue it.
Probably never happen, but a fella can dream.
"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain "Innocents Abroad"
USAF Jayhawk wrote: They won't appeal or sue...that was the agreement when they pushed the case to the IARP instead of letting NCAA rule. No appeals.
I know.
And they probably won’t.
But I’m wouldn’t be surprised, given time and more NCAA faux pas, if one day someone at KU convinces them to try, Because the abuse and bias is so evident with other cases to hold up in comparison that some hotshot Jayhawk related attorney will want to pursue it.
Probably never happen, but a fella can dream.
"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain "Innocents Abroad"
The following user(s) said Thank You: boulderhawk
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.