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2 years 4 months ago #30034
by asteroid
The Sagarin Predictor ratings, through games on Tuesday, showed less than a 6 point
difference between Kansas on the top and Oklahoma on the bottom. The home court
advantage was 3.5 points in the Big 12 last season, which means that EVERY road
game for Kansas is projected to be a one-possession affair. In other words, get
used to what we saw on Tuesday in Lubbock.
Because of the difficulties in traveling for West Virginia, they like to get two
road games out of the way with one road trip before classes start, so the
Mountaineers historically begin conference play with two road games, and this
year they dropped both contests. So you can imagine that they'll be hungry for
a victory in their home conference opener. Bad luck for them that their starting
point guard is out for the game due to concussion protocol. In a game that is
projected to be that close, the loss of a key starter just might make enough of
a difference for Kansas to pick up a second consecutive road win and add some
cushion over the second-place team.
Almost everybody is calling for it to be a one-possession affair, with Colley
being the most optimistic, having West Virginia ranked lower than most and
Kansas ranked higher than most, making for an almost 6 point margin in favor
of the Jayhawks. All the Sagarin variants, Massey, Pomeroy, Greenfield, and
Begas have Kansas in a squeaker. The rest have West Virginia in a squeaker.
Our one common opponent is Oklahoma State, and although Kansas won and West
Virginia lost, the circumstances are the worst possible, in that Kansas was
at home, West Virginia was on the road, and Kansas is on the road for today's
game. Assuming a 4 point home court advantage, that amounts to 12 points,
so the fact that Kansas won by 2 and West Virginia lost by 7, for a 9 point
differential, turns into a 3 point margin in favor of West Virginia.
The Mountaineers are more underrated by about a point, are more inconsistent
by about a point, but have a negative trend of a point per game, in contrast
to the positive trend for Kansas of a point per game. West Virginia is on a
three-game below-expectation streak. You figure that's got to end at some
point, but it might be hard to do that without your starting point guard
against a team that Greenfield has with the best Away rating.
One oddity worth noting: Seven Overtimes is picking the Mountaineers by a
point, but lists the confidence that the home team will win as just 44
percent. Hey, if you're predicting a team to win a game, shouldn't the
probability be at least 50 percent? Or is his "confidence" percentage
some wacky non-statistical quantity?
Rock Chalk!
Greenfield Stats Comparison
===========================
Offensive Stats WVU KU Defensive Stats WVU KU
Points/Game 79.4 77.9 Opp Points/Game 67.4 65.1
Avg Score Margin +12.0 +12.8 Opp Effective FG % 48.2 46.3
Assists/Game 14.4 18.4 Off Rebounds/Gm 9.8 10.0
Total Rebounds/Gm 35.8 37.6 Def Rebounds/Gm 22.9 25.2
Effective FG % 54.0 54.7 Blocks/Game 2.6 4.1
Off Rebound % 32.3 31.0 Steals/Game 7.4 9.5
FTA/FGA 0.401 0.239 Personal Fouls/Gm 19.6 15.7
Turnover % 15.7 15.1
My Stats Comparison KU WVU
=================== ============= ============
performance +1.73 +2.82
inconsistency 10.77 11.92
trend +0.82 ± 0.77 -1.04 ± 0.77
mental toughness +0.18 ± 0.31 +0.11 ± 0.33
average total pts 142.93 146.86
Common Opponents
================
There is one common opponent, namely Oklahoma State:
KU +2 OSU at home ( -2 neutral court)
WVU -7 OSU on road ( -3 neutral court)
KU -3 WVU on road ( +1 neutral court)
Players to Watch
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most minutes Emmitt Matthews Jr. (forward)
most points Erik Stevenson (guard)
most rebounds Jimmy Bell Jr. (forward)
most assists Kedrian Johnson (guard)
most steals Kedrian Johnson (guard)
most blocks Mohamed Wague (forward)
most turnovers Tre Mitchell (forward)
most fouls Mohamed Wague (forward)
Kedrian Johnson, their starting point guard and leader in assists and steals, is
out for the game due to concussion protocol, so take away his 9 points, 2 rebounds,
3 assists, 1 steal and 2 turnovers per game. Guard Jose Perez is not eligible to
play this season.
13-1 10-4
Margin Predicted Win Prb Kansas West Virginia
Predictor points Score percent Rating SOS Rating SOS
==================== ====== ========= ======= ============ ============
Sagarin Overall +2.86 76 73 60 # 4 # 8 # 31 # 42
Sagarin Predictor +1.19 75 74 53.9 # 6 # 8 # 29 # 42
Sagarin Golden Mean +3.19 76 73 # 2 # 8 # 27 # 42
Sagarin Recent Games +3.86 76 72 # 4 # 8 # 37 # 42
Sagarin Eigenvector +3.25 76 72.5 62
Massey +3.00 74 71 58 # 1 # 2 # 31 # 28
Pomeroy +1.27 70 68 # 5 # 10 # 20 # 39
Greenfield +1.50 72 70.5 # 7 # 2 # 25 # 19
Dunkel -1.50 72 73 # 2 # 45
Vegas (via Dunkel) +2.00 72 70
Dolphin Predictive -0.24 72 72 49.2 # 5 # 8 # 3 # 14
Real Time -2.00 74 76 42.9 # 1 # 12 # 37 # 27
Seven Overtimes -1.00 72 73 56 # 7 # 9 # 23 # 28
DPPI # # # #
ESPN BPI -3.10 41.8 # 13 # 9 # 19 # 18
Whitlock -0.38 # 7 # 5 # 12 # 27
Colley Matrix +5.75 # 1 # 7 # 42 # 29
NCAA NET # 4 # 16
LRMC # # # #
common opponents -3.00
Massey composite # 3 # 18
Pomeroy offense # 13 # 27
Pomeroy defense # 10 # 34
Pomeroy tempo #135 #144
==================== ====== ========= ======= ============ ============
average +0,98 73.5 72.2 53.0
scatter 2.56 2.1 2.0 7.6
Here is Kansas' season, for which the current season projection is a 24-7
record:
SITE OPPONENT SCORE PREDIC ERROR PROB.
---- ----------------------------- ------- ------ ----- -----
HOME #300 Omaha(Neb.-Omaha) 89 64 +27.49 -2.49
HOME #243 North Dakota State 82 59 +24.34 -1.34
NEUT # 21 Duke 69 64 +3.14 +1.86
HOME #155 Southern Utah 82 76 +19.01 -13.01
NEUT # 42 NC State 80 74 +6.23 -0.23
NEUT # 40 Wisconsin 69 68 +6.18 -5.18
NEUT # 2 Tennessee 50 64 -3.00 -11.00
HOME #268 Texas Southern 87 55 +25.61 +6.39
HOME # 64 Seton Hall 91 65 +10.77 +15.23
AWAY # 47 Missouri 95 67 +3.45 +24.55
HOME # 15 Indiana 84 62 +4.95 +17.05
HOME #146 Harvard 68 54 +18.65 -4.65
HOME # 30 Oklahoma State 69 67 +7.30 -5.30
AWAY # 24 Texas Tech 75 72 +0.61 +2.39
AWAY # 29 West Virginia +1.18 0.541
HOME # 41 Oklahoma +9.23 0.814
HOME # 31 Iowa State +7.92 0.771
AWAY # 35 Kansas State +2.37 0.593
HOME # 22 TCU +6.54 0.696
AWAY # 14 Baylor -1.38 0.458
AWAY # 25 Kentucky +0.85 0.531
HOME # 35 Kansas State +8.43 0.800
AWAY # 31 Iowa State +1.86 0.569
HOME # 8 Texas +3.87 0.638
AWAY # 41 Oklahoma +3.17 0.621
AWAY # 30 Oklahoma State +1.24 0.553
HOME # 14 Baylor +4.68 0.639
AWAY # 22 TCU +0.48 0.515
HOME # 29 West Virginia +7.24 0.738
HOME # 24 Texas Tech +6.67 0.728
AWAY # 8 Texas -2.19 0.421
Here is West Virginia's season:
SITE OPPONENT SCORE PREDIC ERROR PROB.
---- ----------------------------- ------- ------ ----- -----
HOME #248 Mount St. Mary's 76 58 +20.36 -2.36
AWAY # 73 Pittsburgh 81 56 +1.88 +23.12
HOME #274 Morehead State 75 57 +21.59 -3.59
HOME #158 Pennsylvania 92 58 +14.89 +19.11
NEUT # 10 Purdue 68 80 -3.09 -8.91
NEUT #237 Portland State 89 71 +16.53 +1.47
NEUT # 46 Florida 84 55 +2.25 +26.75
AWAY # 23 Xavier-Ohio 74 84 -3.71 -6.29
HOME #211 Navy 85 64 +18.10 +2.90
HOME # 55 UAB 81 70 +5.98 +5.02
HOME #177 Buffalo 96 78 +16.02 +1.98
HOME #287 Stony Brook-NY 75 64 +22.52 -11.52
AWAY # 35 Kansas State 76 82 -1.84 -4.16
AWAY # 30 Oklahoma State 60 67 -2.97 -4.03
HOME # 6 Kansas -1.18 0.459
HOME # 14 Baylor +0.47 0.514
AWAY # 41 Oklahoma -1.04 0.462
HOME # 22 TCU +2.33 0.570
HOME # 8 Texas -0.34 0.488
AWAY # 24 Texas Tech -3.60 0.378
HOME # 33 Auburn +3.99 0.636
AWAY # 22 TCU -3.73 0.389
HOME # 41 Oklahoma +5.02 0.677
HOME # 31 Iowa State +3.71 0.629
AWAY # 8 Texas -6.40 0.289
AWAY # 14 Baylor -5.59 0.341
HOME # 24 Texas Tech +2.46 0.584
HOME # 30 Oklahoma State +3.09 0.621
AWAY # 6 Kansas -7.24 0.262
AWAY # 31 Iowa State -2.35 0.417
HOME # 35 Kansas State +4.22 0.654
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