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Bill Self W-L Record AY2021-22
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by HawkErrant
"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain "Innocents Abroad"
NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP GAME ON MONDAY, Jayhawks!
WON-LOST
at KU ... NAME ........... ( % ) . CAREER ( % )
590-219 Phog Allen.... (.729) 746-264 . (.739)
555-124 BILL SELF..... (.817) 762-229 . (.769)
418-101 Roy Williams (.808) 903-264 . (.774)
35 = Wins to tie Phog as winningest Head Coach in KANSAS history.*
141 = Wins to tie Roy as THE winningest KANSAS Head Coach for TOTAL CAREER
*SELF'S PROJECTED "KU PASS YEAR": AY2023-24
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BACKGROUND
(This section seldom changes during the course of the season, but is copied in each new post for easy reference.)
Last Update: 2022-03-27
With Bill passing Phog's Career totals in AY2021-22, he will still be just the 2nd winningest men's basketball coach to ever coach at KANSAS.
Roy only stayed at KU long enough to record a 418-101 KANSAS record, but he went on to pass Phog in Career wins with his alma mater. Roy (who turned 71 in August 2021) retired April 1, 2021 with a career record of 903-264 (.774) after 33 seasons coaching KU (15 years , 418-101, .805) and the tarred ones (18 years, 485-163, .748).
Bill (who turns 60 in December 2022) still has a long way to go after 29 seasons (conservatively another 6 seasons if he averages 25 wins per season) to catch and pass Roy in total career wins and be the winningest head coach ever to coach at KANSAS.
Back to and closing with Bill passing Phog --
Assuming a return to 31 game seasons and two consecutive incredible seasons for the Jayhawks, Bill could mathematically pass Phog by the end of the AY2022-23 postseason. That would require winning 68 games in two consecutive seasons, which is HIGHLY UNLIKELY. Self has had back-to back seasons totally 68 or more wins twice.
60+ WIN CONSECUTIVE SEASONS
70 wins AY2006-07 and AY2007-08
68 wins AY2009-10 and AY2010-11
67 wins AY2010-11 and AY2011-12
64 wins (a) AY2007-08 and AY 2008-09 (b) AY2015-16 and AY2016-17
63 wins AY2011-12 and AY2012-13
62 wins AY2016-17 and AY2017-18
Until the NCAA case is settled, the prospects for future KU teams doing so well are not as rosy as they otherwise might be, but the new lifetime contract already seems to be having a positive impact if having the Rivals #3 recruiting class for 2022 is any indication.
Given the above, and allowing Self’s teams averaging *just* 25 wins a year for the next 3 years, my "Pass Year" projection for Bill passing Phog is AY2023-24.
May he beat that projection!
How much longer will Bill Self coach?
I'd love to see him coach for another 11 seasons (including this season) for 39 total seasons coaching, retiring at 70 in 2033 and winning over 1000 games in his career.
But what does Bill think, you say?
See
KC Star: KU coach Bill Self addresses NBA rumors: ‘I look forward to being here for a long time’ by Sam Mellinger.
and
KUSports.com - Tait: Kansas basketball coach Bill Self signs lifetime contract extension with KU (2021-04-02)
*NB:
AY2020-21 final record was 21-9
WON-LOST
at KU ... NAME ........... ( % ) . CAREER ( % )
590-219 Phog Allen.... (.729) 746-264 . (.739)
555-124 BILL SELF..... (.817) 762-229 . (.769)
418-101 Roy Williams (.808) 903-264 . (.774)
35 = Wins to tie Phog as winningest Head Coach in KANSAS history.*
141 = Wins to tie Roy as THE winningest KANSAS Head Coach for TOTAL CAREER
*SELF'S PROJECTED "KU PASS YEAR": AY2023-24
=================================
BACKGROUND
(This section seldom changes during the course of the season, but is copied in each new post for easy reference.)
Last Update: 2022-03-27
With Bill passing Phog's Career totals in AY2021-22, he will still be just the 2nd winningest men's basketball coach to ever coach at KANSAS.
Roy only stayed at KU long enough to record a 418-101 KANSAS record, but he went on to pass Phog in Career wins with his alma mater. Roy (who turned 71 in August 2021) retired April 1, 2021 with a career record of 903-264 (.774) after 33 seasons coaching KU (15 years , 418-101, .805) and the tarred ones (18 years, 485-163, .748).
Bill (who turns 60 in December 2022) still has a long way to go after 29 seasons (conservatively another 6 seasons if he averages 25 wins per season) to catch and pass Roy in total career wins and be the winningest head coach ever to coach at KANSAS.
Back to and closing with Bill passing Phog --
Assuming a return to 31 game seasons and two consecutive incredible seasons for the Jayhawks, Bill could mathematically pass Phog by the end of the AY2022-23 postseason. That would require winning 68 games in two consecutive seasons, which is HIGHLY UNLIKELY. Self has had back-to back seasons totally 68 or more wins twice.
60+ WIN CONSECUTIVE SEASONS
70 wins AY2006-07 and AY2007-08
68 wins AY2009-10 and AY2010-11
67 wins AY2010-11 and AY2011-12
64 wins (a) AY2007-08 and AY 2008-09 (b) AY2015-16 and AY2016-17
63 wins AY2011-12 and AY2012-13
62 wins AY2016-17 and AY2017-18
Until the NCAA case is settled, the prospects for future KU teams doing so well are not as rosy as they otherwise might be, but the new lifetime contract already seems to be having a positive impact if having the Rivals #3 recruiting class for 2022 is any indication.
Given the above, and allowing Self’s teams averaging *just* 25 wins a year for the next 3 years, my "Pass Year" projection for Bill passing Phog is AY2023-24.
May he beat that projection!
How much longer will Bill Self coach?
I'd love to see him coach for another 11 seasons (including this season) for 39 total seasons coaching, retiring at 70 in 2033 and winning over 1000 games in his career.
But what does Bill think, you say?
See
KC Star: KU coach Bill Self addresses NBA rumors: ‘I look forward to being here for a long time’ by Sam Mellinger.
and
KUSports.com - Tait: Kansas basketball coach Bill Self signs lifetime contract extension with KU (2021-04-02)
*NB:
AY2020-21 final record was 21-9
"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain "Innocents Abroad"
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2 years 3 weeks ago - 2 years 2 weeks ago #29035
by HawkErrant
"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain "Innocents Abroad"
NATIONAL CHAMPIONS!
WON-LOST
at KU ... NAME ........... ( % ) . CAREER ( % )
590-219 Phog Allen.... (.729) 746-264 . (.739)
556-124 BILL SELF....... (.818) 763-229 . (.769)
418-101 Roy Williams (.808) 903-264 . (.774)
34 = Wins to tie Phog as winningest Head Coach in KANSAS history.*
140 = Wins to tie Roy as THE winningest KANSAS Head Coach for TOTAL CAREER
*SELF'S PROJECTED "KU PASS YEAR": AY2023-24
=================================
BACKGROUND
(This section seldom changes during the course of the season, but is copied in each new post for easy reference.)
Last Update: 2022-03-27
With Bill passing Phog's Career totals in AY2021-22, he will still be just the 2nd winningest men's basketball coach to ever coach at KANSAS.
Roy only stayed at KU long enough to record a 418-101 KANSAS record, but he went on to pass Phog in Career wins with his alma mater. Roy (who turned 71 in August 2021) retired April 1, 2021 with a career record of 903-264 (.774) after 33 seasons coaching KU (15 years , 418-101, .805) and the tarred ones (18 years, 485-163, .748).
Bill (who turns 60 in December 2022) still has a long way to go after 29 seasons (conservatively another 6 seasons if he averages 25 wins per season) to catch and pass Roy in total career wins and be the winningest head coach ever to coach at KANSAS.
Back to and closing with Bill passing Phog --
Assuming a return to 31 game seasons and two consecutive incredible seasons for the Jayhawks, Bill could mathematically pass Phog by the end of the AY2022-23 postseason. That would require winning 68 games in two consecutive seasons, which is HIGHLY UNLIKELY. Self has had back-to back seasons totally 68 or more wins twice.
60+ WIN CONSECUTIVE SEASONS
70 wins AY2006-07 and AY2007-08
68 wins AY2009-10 and AY2010-11
67 wins AY2010-11 and AY2011-12
64 wins (a) AY2007-08 and AY 2008-09 (b) AY2015-16 and AY2016-17
63 wins AY2011-12 and AY2012-13
62 wins AY2016-17 and AY2017-18
Until the NCAA case is settled, the prospects for future KU teams doing so well are not as rosy as they otherwise might be, but the new lifetime contract already seems to be having a positive impact if having the Rivals #3 recruiting class for 2022 is any indication.
Given the above, and allowing Self’s teams averaging *just* 25 wins a year for the next 3 years, my "Pass Year" projection for Bill passing Phog is AY2023-24.
May he beat that projection!
How much longer will Bill Self coach?
I'd love to see him coach for another 11 seasons (including this season) for 39 total seasons coaching, retiring at 70 in 2033 and winning over 1000 games in his career.
But what does Bill think, you say?
See
KC Star: KU coach Bill Self addresses NBA rumors: ‘I look forward to being here for a long time’ by Sam Mellinger.
and
KUSports.com - Tait: Kansas basketball coach Bill Self signs lifetime contract extension with KU (2021-04-02)
*NB:
AY2020-21 final record was 21-9
WON-LOST
at KU ... NAME ........... ( % ) . CAREER ( % )
590-219 Phog Allen.... (.729) 746-264 . (.739)
556-124 BILL SELF....... (.818) 763-229 . (.769)
418-101 Roy Williams (.808) 903-264 . (.774)
34 = Wins to tie Phog as winningest Head Coach in KANSAS history.*
140 = Wins to tie Roy as THE winningest KANSAS Head Coach for TOTAL CAREER
*SELF'S PROJECTED "KU PASS YEAR": AY2023-24
=================================
BACKGROUND
(This section seldom changes during the course of the season, but is copied in each new post for easy reference.)
Last Update: 2022-03-27
With Bill passing Phog's Career totals in AY2021-22, he will still be just the 2nd winningest men's basketball coach to ever coach at KANSAS.
Roy only stayed at KU long enough to record a 418-101 KANSAS record, but he went on to pass Phog in Career wins with his alma mater. Roy (who turned 71 in August 2021) retired April 1, 2021 with a career record of 903-264 (.774) after 33 seasons coaching KU (15 years , 418-101, .805) and the tarred ones (18 years, 485-163, .748).
Bill (who turns 60 in December 2022) still has a long way to go after 29 seasons (conservatively another 6 seasons if he averages 25 wins per season) to catch and pass Roy in total career wins and be the winningest head coach ever to coach at KANSAS.
Back to and closing with Bill passing Phog --
Assuming a return to 31 game seasons and two consecutive incredible seasons for the Jayhawks, Bill could mathematically pass Phog by the end of the AY2022-23 postseason. That would require winning 68 games in two consecutive seasons, which is HIGHLY UNLIKELY. Self has had back-to back seasons totally 68 or more wins twice.
60+ WIN CONSECUTIVE SEASONS
70 wins AY2006-07 and AY2007-08
68 wins AY2009-10 and AY2010-11
67 wins AY2010-11 and AY2011-12
64 wins (a) AY2007-08 and AY 2008-09 (b) AY2015-16 and AY2016-17
63 wins AY2011-12 and AY2012-13
62 wins AY2016-17 and AY2017-18
Until the NCAA case is settled, the prospects for future KU teams doing so well are not as rosy as they otherwise might be, but the new lifetime contract already seems to be having a positive impact if having the Rivals #3 recruiting class for 2022 is any indication.
Given the above, and allowing Self’s teams averaging *just* 25 wins a year for the next 3 years, my "Pass Year" projection for Bill passing Phog is AY2023-24.
May he beat that projection!
How much longer will Bill Self coach?
I'd love to see him coach for another 11 seasons (including this season) for 39 total seasons coaching, retiring at 70 in 2033 and winning over 1000 games in his career.
But what does Bill think, you say?
See
KC Star: KU coach Bill Self addresses NBA rumors: ‘I look forward to being here for a long time’ by Sam Mellinger.
and
KUSports.com - Tait: Kansas basketball coach Bill Self signs lifetime contract extension with KU (2021-04-02)
*NB:
AY2020-21 final record was 21-9
"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain "Innocents Abroad"
Last Edit: 2 years 2 weeks ago by HawkErrant.
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