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4 years 4 months ago #24028
by asteroid
For purposes of making a game prediction, I've changed today's contest from
"HOME" to "NEUT". It's part of Kansas' season ticket package, so it's a home
game in that context, but it's not being played on either team's home court,
and although Kansas ought to have a rather sizeable crowd advantage, the
Sprint Center is closer to UMKC's campus than it is to KU's campus. Some
might prefer to call it a semi-home game and halve the usual home court
advantage. Sagarin is calling it a "Closeby" game, but is awarding the
reduced advantage to UMKC, not Kansas, leading to a discrepancy between his
prediction and my own prediction based on his numbers! We're talking about
a difference of only a couple points at most, and the uncertainty in the
predicted margin is substantially larger than that, so it's not worth arguing
over how much the home court advantage ought to be.
Part of the difficulty in making an accurate game prediction is that the
parameter space is so much larger. For example, if Kansas jumps out to a
huge lead, the walk-ons may get to play extended minutes, which is likely
to make the final score closer than it would have been if the regulars had
played the entire game. Or Self could use this game as an opportunity for
certain bench players to work on weaknesses in their game, so they could get
extended minutes, perhaps running up the margin in the process. Plus there
is the tendency for a team to let its collective foot off the gas pedal
after building up a huge lead. I'm sure that many of you could add other
considerations. The bottom line is that these kind of games are harder to
predict than ones in which the teams are more evenly matched.
It is the last of only three games this season against teams in the bottom
and middle tiers of NCAA Division I. With 353 teams in Division I,
I consider the three tiers (top, middle, bottom) to be roughly 118 teams in
size. With Monmouth currently at #241, Milwaukee currently at #234, and
UMKC currently at #227, all three are near the boundary between the middle
and bottom tiers. Although UMKC is ranked ahead of Milwaukee, the Kangaroos
lost to the Panthers earlier this season by 9 points. Starting next week,
the weakest team Kansas will face until the first round of the NCAA Tournament
is #82 Kansas State, and the Jayhawks will creep upward in the strength of
schedule rankings. As of yesterday's action, Michigan had played 7 of their
10 games against the Sagarin Top 50, yet their strength of schedule is ranked
only #11 by Sagarin, compared to #1 New Orleans, who has played only 2 teams
in the Top 50. I think Massey has it right with Michigan at #1 and Oregon at
#2; guess who's playing each other today? In fact, the Ducks and Wolverines
are playing as I write this!
I think it's safe to say that UMKC has played a tougher schedule than
Milwaukee had played prior to their game with Kansas. Interestingly, the
two toughest teams UMKC has played are both Big XII members, and they lost
on the road to both Oklahoma State and Iowa State by 18 points. The
Kangaroos have been remarkably consistent, their inconsistency being just
5.3 points, compared to the Jayhawks' 10.2 points. UMKC's best game came
against George Washington, in which they played 4.4 points above expectation,
while their worst game came against Drake, in which they played 9.5 points
below expectation. If you ignore the Monmouth blowout, Kansas has been
even more consistent; the BYU game was 7.1 points better than expectation,
and the rest have been within 3 points of expectation. An upset would not
quite be of Stephen F. Austin proportions (against Duke) in terms of
predicted margin, but considering how consistent each team has been, it
would be even more unlikely.
Greenfield Stats Comparison
===========================
Offensive Stats UMKC KU Defensive Stats UMKC KU
Points/Game 62.2 81.9 Opp Points/Game 70.2 64.5
Avg Score Margin -8.0 +17.4 Opp Effective FG % 51.9 43.6
Assists/Game 9.9 17.0 Off Rebounds/Gm 6.0 9.0
Total Rebounds/Gm 28.7 39.4 Def Rebounds/Gm 19.8 28.1
Effective FG % 47.0 57.8 Blocks/Game 2.8 4.1
Off Rebound % 19.4 29.9 Steals/Game 7.6 8.9
FTA/FGA 0.279 0.399 Personal Fouls/Gm 22.0 16.5
Turnover % 18.5 17.4
Common Opponents
================
There is one common opponent, namely Milwaukee:
KU +27 Mil at home (+23 neutral court)
KC -9 Mil on road ( -5 neutral court)
KU +28 KC neutral (+28 neutral court)
This game will create a common opponent for the Iowa State and Oklahoma State
games.
Players to Watch
================
most minutes Rob Whitfield (guard)
most points Javan White (forward)
most rebounds Javan White (forward)
most assists Jashire Hardnett (guard) / Brandon McKissic (guard)
most steals Rob Whitfield (guard) / Javan White (forward)
most blocks Javan White (forward)
most turnovers Jordy Tshimanga (center)
most fouls Javan White (forward) / Marvin Nesbitt Jr. (guard)
8-1 5-6
Margin Predicted Win Prb Kansas UMKC
Predictor points Score percent Rating SOS Rating SOS
==================== ====== ========= ======= ============ ============
Sagarin Overall +22.18 79 57 94 # 3 # 17 #234 #130
Sagarin Predictor +21.57 78 57 99.8 # 3 # 17 #227 #130
Sagarin Golden Mean +21.24 78 57 # 3 # 17 #217 #130
Sagarin Recent Games +23.82 80 56 # 3 # 17 #249 #130
Sagarin Eigenvector +18.73 77 58 91
Massey +36.00 88 52 99 # 2 # 16 #266 #289
Pomeroy +22.13 76 54 # 5 # 27 #260 #125
Greenfield +23.00 80 56.5 # 2 # 4 #221 #196
Dunkel +28.50 81 52 # 10 #243
Vegas (via Dunkel) +23.00 79 56
Dolphin Predictive +22.08 80 58 97.3 # 3 # 1 #241 #174
Real Time +29.00 89 60 98 # 1 # 1 #255 #125
Seven Overtimes +30.00 85 55 95 # 2 # 20 #250 #193
DPPI +28.90 85 56 99.9 # 3 # 2 #272 #202
ESPN BPI +20.90 95.9 # 6 # 56 #211 #126
Colley Matrix +32.93 # 4 # 2 #213 #147
common opponents +28.00
==================== ====== ========= ======= ============ ============
average +25.4 81.1 56.0
scatter 4.8 4.1 2.2
Here is Kansas' season, for which the projected record is now 25-6, despite the
fact that there are no projected losses. Toughest game would be the road game
with Baylor.
SITE OPPONENT SCORE PREDIC ERROR PROB.
---- ----------------------------- ------- ------ ----- -----
NEUT # 1 Duke 66 68 -2.46 +0.46
HOME # 75 NC Greensboro 74 62 +14.94 -2.94
HOME #241 Monmouth-NJ 112 57 +27.25 +27.75
HOME # 68 East Tennessee State(ETS 75 63 +14.50 -2.50
Div2 Chaminade 93 63
NEUT # 38 BYU 71 56 +7.89 +7.11
NEUT # 32 Dayton 90 84 +7.13 -1.13
HOME # 42 Colorado 72 58 +11.90 +2.10
HOME #234 Milwaukee 95 68 +26.98 +0.02
NEUT #227 Kansas City(UMKC) +23.22 0.998
AWAY # 23 Villanova +2.17 0.581
AWAY # 54 Stanford +6.65 0.735
HOME # 43 Oklahoma +11.98 0.871
AWAY # 37 Iowa State +4.43 0.662
HOME # 64 TCU +14.38 0.913
AWAY # 11 Baylor +0.34 0.513
HOME # 45 Texas +12.50 0.881
AWAY # 20 West Virginia +2.12 0.579
HOME # 37 Iowa State +10.99 0.850
HOME # 21 Tennessee +8.69 0.794
AWAY # 45 Texas +5.94 0.713
HOME # 16 Texas Tech +7.75 0.768
AWAY # 82 Kansas State +8.88 0.799
HOME # 39 Oklahoma State +11.42 0.860
AWAY # 64 TCU +7.82 0.770
HOME # 20 West Virginia +8.68 0.794
AWAY # 16 Texas Tech +1.19 0.545
HOME # 82 Kansas State +15.44 0.928
AWAY # 39 Oklahoma State +4.86 0.677
AWAY # 43 Oklahoma +5.42 0.696
HOME # 11 Baylor +6.90 0.743
Here is Kansas City's season to-date:
SITE OPPONENT SCORE PREDIC ERROR PROB.
---- ----------------------------- ------- ------ ----- -----
NAIA Avila 102 49
AWAY # 39 Oklahoma State 51 69 -18.36 +0.36
AWAY #141 Drake 58 76 -8.47 -9.53
AWAY #234 Milwaukee 52 61 -2.80 -6.20
NAIA Bacone 111 38
NEUT #251 George Washington 74 68 +1.60 +4.40
NEUT #264 East Carolina 74 68 +2.13 +3.87
NEUT # 90 Liberty 49 62 -9.87 -3.13
HOME #282 Western Illinois 68 67 +6.88 -5.88
AWAY # 37 Iowa State 61 79 -18.79 +0.79
AWAY #275 McNeese State 73 82 -0.18 -8.82
NEUT # 3 Kansas -23.22 0.002
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