Grimes is gone

Huge mistake as I see it. Declaring but hasn't confirmed an agent. Nevertheless all indications are that he's gone for good.

I don't see it. Maybe he gets drafted this year, maybe not. If he came back and had a breakout year, he'd have a shot at solidifying his status.

On the surface, it's a mistake. Just wondering if he knows something we don't.

Young man’s gotta do what he’s gotta do. Seemed like a good kid, who started on fire and dimmed from there.

Hope the pro game is more his style.

Yep, Konza. Hope he likes exotic foods because he won't be playing where hamburgers, hot dogs, or apple pie are regular menu items.

I wouldn't be floored if he came back. If he gets feedback from the NBA that his game isn't ready, I would think KU would be a better option than Croatia or Serbia. I also think it would be different than the Vick situation. Vick always seemed to be kind of a problem child, whereas I haven't heard of any behavior issues with Grimes.

I still think it's a remote thing, but if it were to happen I'd have a very different view of it than I did of the Vick situation.

...might need a relief driver this season? thank you, texkan

First and foremost, I wish Quentin all the best. I truly do hope he succeeds in his quest for the NBA. I hope that everything I am about to say is wrong.

I seems to me that Quentin is completely deluded. He seems to be suffering from dreams and hopes being disconnected from reality. His head was filled with lofty dreams and expectations his senior year. He was an 18 year old young man who was receiving national attention and was being told by the pundits that he was a year away from making millions and receiving fame. Thise dreams grew and grew and became his de facto reality. Then the data started rolling in. He seemed to prove all the pundits correct n the first game of the season when KU defeated a Final Four bound MIchigan St. and Grimes had a spectacular game. Clearly he had some skills and ability. But that is pretty much where the positive data ended and the reality of negative data began. For the vast majority of the remaining 35 games, he showed skills and abilities that would objectively classify him as an average (at best) collegiate level basketball player. He showed no superior ability to shoot, to handle the ball, the distribute, to lead a team, to drive to the rim, to defend with tenacity, to be a defensive stopper, to show superior mental toughness...in short, he showed not a single skill that would set him apart form hundreds of other college athletes. His athleticism was average at best. His strength was average. I will go as far as to say, had his pre-season rankings been magically wiped clean and he had to earn his time purely with his play, that he would not have started and would likely not have played many minutes. I admit, I am not fully up to speed on what attributes that NBA scouts judge players, but based on my reasonable sense of it, he showed none that would make him worthy of actually locking him in with a draft pick. He is the quintessential type of player that teams will take their chances on pulling out of free agency after the draft. Heck, I would rate him well below Svi and Malik and look where they are. I mostly feel for the young man because I think he has been deluded and received poor advice.

Having said all of that, I think this is better for KU. Again, that is my non-expert opinion based on my assessment of what I judge his potential. I think the minutes he would have been likely to have next season would be better going to guys who minght be better next year but have much better growth potential. He might be a higher ceiling guy than I give him credit for. But I do not see it at this point. it seems to me that Self felt some compulsion to play him in hopes of an emergence. It never happened. Not even close. Not even incremental growth of any kind, at least not significant. Heck, at this point I have more hope for Braun and McBride to be steady growth contributors given a chance to play. And possibly losing Grimes will open up a spot for Cassius Stanley or a transfer player that will be more impactful.

I do wish him the best. I am not critical of him personally in the slightest. Quite the opposite. I hope all I said was incorrect. But that is how I see him objectively as a basketball player. I was against Vick returning after he pulled the “I’m leaving” routine. This is a new phenomena, the “I’m leaving, no I’m returning” option from the NCAA. It has not worked well for KU in our one experience. That makes me a little jaded. I think we would all see some truth to the proposition that Vick played hero ball looking to up his draft status. His head was all about himself and not necessarily about the team. That is bad chemistry and bad mojo. I’m not saying he was disliked or anything specific, only that I think he exhibited a pattern of behavior that showed he was desperate to prove himself. I say if Grimes come back hat in hand, that would be a tough call depending on who else we have signed by then. But I would not automatically take him back. It waould be a little more deliberative decision.

Wasn’t Svi like 12 when he came to KU?! Actually I think he might have been 16 soon to turn 17.....he was a young ‘un! And I generally recall 4 years of conversations on this board about svi’s sloooooooow development.

I so wanted Q to flip the switch...he couldn’t find it. Best wishes young man.....

I was thinking yesterday......our cupboard looks bare but it isn’t empty.

But.....Devon is puzzling.

“My thought is if the kid doesn’t want to be here It is better that he go.”

WELL SAID, Brother HE, well said.

And PLEASE no more boomerangs.

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