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What an embarrassment!!!!
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I sense a pattern here. Not a good one!
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Very dispiriting.
“With kindest regards to Dr. Forrest C. Allen, the father of basketball coaching, from the father of the game.”
1936 inscription on the portrait of Dr. Naismith, displayed above Phog Allen's office desk at KU.
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Definitely need to focus on finding fast defenders who can shoot. Don’t need to be top ten, but need to be athletic, which this team, with few exceptions, isn’t.
Enough said... or in this case, written.
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I never saw a lack of pride, or effort from these guys. They're young men who donned the KU uniform and other than Vick did nothing to embarrass the KU family. They just weren't very good on the court, and for the most part aren't athletic enough to hang with the best teams this year.
What I did see was a team of mostly D-1 substitutes starting for an historically great blueblood team. I also saw a hodgepodge of transfers, freshmen, and Vick, the prodigal son who returned, but with the same baggage with which he left, I saw a roster missing several would be experienced players lost to eligibility problems over the past three years. I saw a program drug through the national spotlight as cheaters. I saw a coaching staff with little fire or emotion throughout the season. I saw a coach linked to NBA jobs. I saw blue chip after blue chip recruit commit elsewhere for coming years. I saw a traditional big man game plan that hasn't acknowledged the notion that fools gold three point shots now dominate and when those shots are being made, no hi/lo two big man system can compete.
All told, this season fall SQUARELY on a coach and a coaching staff that is reaping the effects of several years of questionable actions. Self is fantastic, a hall of famer, and has given us decades of enjoyment. But this season shows that something, or many things, have to change. I'm certainly not calling for a new head coach, but Self is the one that needs to shoulder any embarrassment for where this program has fallen.
The players have nothing to be embarrassed about. The ones who showed up on day one, wore the jersey, and were there at the end of the season are entitled to our respect.
Rock Chalk, and onward !
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“With kindest regards to Dr. Forrest C. Allen, the father of basketball coaching, from the father of the game.”
1936 inscription on the portrait of Dr. Naismith, displayed above Phog Allen's office desk at KU.
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I'm pretty disappointed in Self and the program right now, and having this current roster pointed to in any was as having as shouldering the blame for this season. They were put in a no-win situation by several years of poor decisions by the coaching staff.
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What's odd is that last year we had athletes and great shooters, yet got curb-stomped by a Villanova team that couldn't have played any better. Last night we had players who largely couldn't keep up with a 5-seed team that also couldn't have played any better. Oregon in 2017, anyone? Couldn't have played any better. When we keep facing teams that "couldn't have played any better," it does point back to a pattern and that goes to coaching - in as much as Coach Self often likes to say that the way you win games is to find your comfort zone and force the other team out of theirs. These three successive blowout tournament losses underscore how we've badly, badly misfired on both those counts recently (and several other times in Self's tournament past).
I'll always bleed crimson and blue and love the school and squad with every fiber of my being, but in this particular instance and with this particular team, it's clear that we've got to recruit shooters and athletes, hope that our core of bigs return, and for god's sake adjust our defense to better guard against the 3-bombs. The question is, at this late recruiting stage, who is left. (I'm generally not a fan of really late recruiting, picking up the scraps that no one else has yet landed)
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I have no doubt that this is a great bunch of kids who try hard. Some are very young and need a year with Andrea.
Some have been around and may just not have the fast twitch muscles. Some can't guard. Some can't shoot. HCBS is well paid to assemble the talent and this is just not a talented bunch.
Maybe a summer of lifting, shooting and an addition or two and this gets better. Maybe?
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