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5 years 1 month ago #22194
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22 points above expectation. Best performance of the season for Kansas. A
statistical fluctuation, or was Northeastern overrated, or are the Jayhawks
finally adjusting to the complement of players they have? Well, with 30+
games under their belts, it's hard to claim that the Huskies were overrated.
The computer ratings are pretty stiff at this time of the season, with a lot
of data to back them up. We'll know more after the next game if it was just
a statitical fluctuation. But we can all hope that the Jayhawks are figuring
out how to play with the people they have, though it would be a bit of a
coincidence for it all to come together precisely at the time of the first
NCAA Tournament game.
It doesn't get much closer than this. Auburn is #11 and Kansas is #12 in
Sagarin's Overall rating. Kansas is #11 and Auburn is #12 in Sagarin's
Predictor rating, which is the basis for my calculations. Yes, the results
from the Round of 64 games were enough to flip the sign on the predicted
margin, and now Kansas is favored by 0.04 points by Predictor, while the
Jayhawks are the underdog by 0.22 points according to the overall ratings.
Kansas is favored by 1.46 points using the Golden Mean method, but Auburn
is a solid 9.55 point favorite according to the Recent Games method, which
is enough to tip the average in favor of Auburn by 0.43 points. Can you say
overtime? Sagarin's eigenvector analysis is the most optimistic for Kansas,
who is favored by 5.26 points. With few exceptions, the prognosticators are
expecting a one-possession affair. But recall that the average error in
their margin predictors is at least 9.1 points.
Garrett has the flu, but Self thinks he'll be ready to play. He's been
quarantined from the rest of the team, so hopefully nobody else has
developed symptoms. Dotson's ankle appears to be okay. It was a
little sore Friday morning, but he was able to return in the Northeastern
game, so it's nothing major.
The trends for both teams are not statistically significant, and although
the negative mental toughness ratings are significant, they are virtually
identical, so the net effect is a mere 0.05 points, with Kansas being a
0.025 point favorite. See why I said it doesn't get much closer than this?
Kansas now has a 50 percent chance of reaching the Sweet Sixteen, a 7 percent
chance of reaching the Final Four, and a 0.5 percent chance of a national
championship.
Rock Chalk!
Kansas Auburn
Performance = +0.03 +1.41
Inconsistency = 9.88 11.53
Trend = -0.05 +/- 0.17 -0.15 +/- 0.19
Mental toughness = -0.39 +/- 0.23 -0.40 +/- 0.21
Offense = 75.37 78.51
Defense = 69.94 69.17
Total points = 145.31 147.69
Scoring margin = 5.43 9.34
Note that my offense and defense numbers correct for home court, which
is why there is a slight difference with Greenfield's numbers below.
Greenfield Stats Comparison
===========================
Offensive Stats AU KU Defensive Stats AU KU
Points/Game 78.9 75.7 Opp Points/Game 68.8 69.6
Avg Score Margin +10.0 +6.1 Opp Effective FG % 51.9% 47.4%
Assist/Game 14.3 13.3 Off Rebounds/Gm 10.1 9.3
Total Rebouds/Gm 33.5 38.2 Def Rebounds/Gm 20.3 26.3
Effective FG % 54.2 52.6 Blocks/Game 4.7 3.9
Off Rebound % 30.8 28.5 Steals/Game 9.3 6.8
FTA/FGA 0.312 0.325 Personal Fouls/Gm 18.5 16.9
Turnover % 14.9% 16.0%
Common Opponents
================
There are three common opponents, namely Kentucky, who Auburn played twice,
Tennessee, who Auburn also played twice, and New Mexico State, giving us
five scores to compare:
KU -8 UK on road ( -4 neutral court) KU -8 UK on road ( -4 neutral court)
Aub -2 UK at home ( -6 neutral court) Aub -27 UK on road (-23 neutral court)
KU +2 Aub neutral ( +2 neutral court) KU +19 Aub neutral (+19 neutral court)
KU +6 Ten neutral ( +6 neutral court) KU +6 Ten neutral ( +6 neutral court)
Aub +4 Ten at home ( 0 neutral court) Aub +20 Ten neutral (+20 neutral court)
KU +6 Aub neutral ( +6 neutral court) KU -14 Aub neutral (-14 neutral court)
KU +3 NMS at home ( -1 neutral court)
Aub +1 NMS neutral ( +1 neutral court)
KU -2 Aub neutral ( -2 neutral court)
Three of the comparisons favor Kansas, while two favor Auburn, unless you consider
the Sprint Center to be a neutral court. Some of the prognosticators would call
the Sprint Center a "semi-home" game and allow half the usual home court advantage,
in which case the New Mexico State comparison would be a wash. Anyway, the average
is 2.2 points in favor of Kansas, but with a scatter of 12.0 points.
Players to Watch
================
most minutes Jared Harper (guard)
most points Bryce Brown (guard)
most rebounds Chuma Okeke (forward)
most assists Jared Harper (guard)
most steals Chuma Okeke (forward)
most blocks Austin Wiley (center)
most turnovers Jared Harper (guard)
most fouls Anfernee McLemore (forward)
26-9 27-9
Margin Predicted Win Prb Kansas Auburn
Predictor points Score percent Rating SOS Rating SOS
==================== ====== ========= ======= ============= =============
Sagarin Overall -0.22 75 76 # 12 # 1 # 11 # 21
Sagarin Predictor +0.04 76 75.5 50.1 # 11 # 1 # 12 # 21
Sagarin Golden Mean +1.46 76 75 # 10 # 1 # 15 # 21
Sagarin Recent Games -9.55 71 80 # 24 # 1 # 1 # 21
Sagarin Eigenvector +5.26 78 73 69
Massey -1.00 74 75 48 # 16 # 3 # 11 # 29
Pomeroy -0.77 73 74 # 16 # 1 # 13 # 22
Greenfield -2.50 72.5 75 # 13 # 5 # 11 # 18
Dunkel -4.50 75 80 # 13 # 16
Vegas (via Dunkel) -2.00 73 75
Dolphin Predictive -2.45 73 76 41.6 # 21 # 10 # 12 # 27
Real Time -1.00 70 71 49.8 # 12 # 1 # 20 # 21
Seven Overtimes +2.00 74 72 67 # 4 # 3 # 15 # 10
DPPI # # # #
ESPN BPI -0.70 47.3 # 18 # 3 # 12 # 37
Whitlock +2.12 # 11 # 1 # 18 # 50
Colley Matrix +4.23 # 9 # 1 # 17 # 18
NCAA NET # 20 # 18
common opponents +2.20
==================== ====== ========= ======= ============ ============
average -0.43 73.9 75.2 151.04
scatter 3.43 2.2 2.6
Here is Kansas' season, with potential future opponents selected from the
higher seed:
SITE OPPONENT SCORE PREDIC ERROR PROB.
---- ----------------------------- ------- ------ ----- -----
NEUT # 4 Michigan State 92 87 -4.83 +9.83
HOME # 88 Vermont 84 68 +13.92 +2.08
HOME #165 Louisiana 89 76 +20.35 -7.35
NEUT # 23 Marquette 77 68 +2.76 +6.24
NEUT # 8 Tennessee 87 81 -1.87 +7.87
HOME #107 Stanford 90 84 +15.60 -9.60
HOME # 37 Wofford 72 47 +7.78 +17.22
HOME # 58 New Mexico State 63 60 +11.14 -8.14
HOME # 17 Villanova 74 71 +4.60 -1.60
HOME #214 South Dakota 89 53 +23.36 +12.64
AWAY # 51 Arizona State 76 80 +4.01 -8.01
HOME #163 Eastern Michigan 87 63 +20.21 +3.79
HOME # 27 Oklahoma 70 63 +6.52 +0.48
AWAY # 14 Iowa State 60 77 -2.40 -14.60
HOME # 42 TCU 77 68 +8.47 +0.53
AWAY # 40 Baylor 73 68 +2.12 +2.88
HOME # 30 Texas 80 78 +6.74 -4.74
AWAY # 65 West Virginia 64 65 +5.97 -6.97
HOME # 14 Iowa State 80 76 +3.84 +0.16
AWAY # 6 Kentucky 63 71 -5.62 -2.38
AWAY # 30 Texas 63 73 +0.50 -10.50
HOME # 9 Texas Tech 79 63 +1.65 +14.35
AWAY # 20 Kansas State 67 74 -0.74 -6.26
HOME # 72 Oklahoma State 84 72 +12.71 -0.71
AWAY # 42 TCU 82 77 +2.23 +2.77
HOME # 65 West Virginia 78 53 +12.21 +12.79
AWAY # 9 Texas Tech 62 91 -4.59 -24.41
HOME # 20 Kansas State 64 49 +5.50 +9.50
AWAY # 72 Oklahoma State 72 67 +6.47 -1.47
AWAY # 27 Oklahoma 68 81 +0.28 -13.28
HOME # 40 Baylor 78 70 +8.36 -0.36
NEUT # 30 Texas 65 57 +3.62 +4.38
NEUT # 65 West Virginia 88 74 +9.09 +4.91
NEUT # 14 Iowa State 66 78 +0.72 -12.72 cumulative
NEUT #106 Northeastern 87 53 +12.27 +21.73 probability
NEUT # 12 Auburn +0.04 0.501 0.501
NEUT # 5 North Carolina -4.66 0.328 0.164
NEUT # 6 Kentucky -2.50 0.414 0.068
NEUT # 3 Virginia -5.92 0.286 0.019
NEUT # 1 Duke -7.20 0.246 0.005
Here is Auburn's season:
SITE OPPONENT SCORE PREDIC ERROR PROB.
---- ----------------------------- ------- ------ ----- -----
HOME #211 South Alabama 101 58 +23.19 +19.81
HOME # 47 Washington 88 66 +9.51 +12.49
Div2 Mississippi College 103 52
NEUT # 59 Xavier-Ohio 88 79 +8.03 +0.97
NEUT # 1 Duke 72 78 -7.24 +1.24
NEUT # 63 Arizona 73 57 +8.65 +7.35
HOME #309 Saint Peter's 99 49 +29.34 +20.66
HOME #344 NC Asheville 67 41 +35.81 -9.81
HOME # 67 Dayton 82 72 +12.20 -2.20
NEUT #152 UAB 75 71 +16.25 -12.25
AWAY # 29 NC State 71 78 +0.27 -7.27
HOME # 55 Murray State 93 88 +10.70 -5.70
HOME #204 North Florida(UNF) 95 49 +22.68 +23.32
AWAY # 46 Mississippi 67 82 +3.13 -18.13
HOME #101 Georgia 93 78 +14.78 +0.22
AWAY # 77 Texas A&M 85 66 +6.73 +12.27
HOME # 6 Kentucky 80 82 +0.58 -2.58
AWAY # 71 South Carolina 77 80 +6.42 -9.42
AWAY # 25 Mississippi State 84 92 -0.25 -7.75
HOME # 73 Missouri 92 58 +12.77 +21.23
HOME # 57 Alabama 84 63 +11.08 +9.92
HOME # 24 Florida 76 62 +5.84 +8.16
AWAY # 21 LSU 78 83 -0.64 -4.36
HOME # 46 Mississippi 55 60 +9.37 -14.37
AWAY #113 Vanderbilt 64 53 +9.65 +1.35
HOME # 49 Arkansas 79 56 +9.81 +13.19
AWAY # 6 Kentucky 53 80 -5.66 -21.34
AWAY #101 Georgia 78 75 +8.54 -5.54
HOME # 25 Mississippi State 80 75 +5.99 -0.99
AWAY # 57 Alabama 66 60 +4.84 +1.16
HOME # 8 Tennessee 84 80 +1.21 +2.79
NEUT # 73 Missouri 81 71 +9.65 +0.35
NEUT # 71 South Carolina 73 64 +9.54 -0.54
NEUT # 24 Florida 65 62 +2.72 +0.28
NEUT # 8 Tennessee 84 64 -1.91 +21.91
NEUT # 58 New Mexico State 78 77 +7.98 -6.98
NEUT # 11 Kansas -0.04 0.499
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5 years 1 month ago #22198
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I would love to see an analysis of the second day of the NCAA weekend under Self with relation to the probability. I would guess that we underperform the second day and over perform the first day. It seems that when Self has a week to prepare his team they come out on fire (TT this year was a clear example of this NOT happening though). But that second day with so little time to prepare, I think we struggle.
Hoping for a win tonight, but not expecting it at all.
Hoping for a win tonight, but not expecting it at all.
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