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Rock Chalk Talk: Basketball
Anything pertaining to basketball: college, pro, HS, recruiting, TV coverage
Anything pertaining to basketball: college, pro, HS, recruiting, TV coverage
Vick caught on surveillance camera cutting brake lines on Agbaji's car. ;)
5 years 3 months ago #20433
by NotOstertag
"When I was a freshman, I remember Coach Naismith telling us how important it was to play good defense." - Mitch Lightfoot
I anticipate that headline to appear in the papers very soon. 
Welcome Ochai Agbaji! Talk about a debut! I'm sure that there are Self haters out there criticizing him for redshirting him in the first place. Great line: 3-5 (60%) shooting, 1-2 from 3 (50%), 4 boards, 1 assist, 2 steals, 1 block, 2 fouls. ZERO turnovers.
So now let's compare that to LeGerald's numbers: 5-10 shooting (50%), 2-7 from 3 (28%), 2 boards, 4 assists, SIX turnovers.
Vick's 6 turnovers were half of the team's total of 12. At halftime, I think Vick had 4 or 5 which was far and away more than anybody else on the team.
I know it's way to early to judge Agbaji, but if these numbers prove to be "typical" I'd anticipate Vick losing his starting spot to Agbaji. Vick's 3 point shot selection is HIGHLY suspect and combined with the way he's throwing the ball away, I'm now officially CRINGING every time he gets the ball and breathing huge sighs of relief when he doesn't screw up. Hell, I even trust Garrett more with the ball (3 assists, zero turnovers) because I think he's playing within his offensive limitations.
Hoping Vick figures it out, but not expecting it. Shot selection and turnovers are most often "mental" mistakes, and I'm not sure that Vick is smart enough or coachable enough to get on the right trajectory.
Welcome Ochai Agbaji! Talk about a debut! I'm sure that there are Self haters out there criticizing him for redshirting him in the first place. Great line: 3-5 (60%) shooting, 1-2 from 3 (50%), 4 boards, 1 assist, 2 steals, 1 block, 2 fouls. ZERO turnovers.
So now let's compare that to LeGerald's numbers: 5-10 shooting (50%), 2-7 from 3 (28%), 2 boards, 4 assists, SIX turnovers.
Vick's 6 turnovers were half of the team's total of 12. At halftime, I think Vick had 4 or 5 which was far and away more than anybody else on the team.
I know it's way to early to judge Agbaji, but if these numbers prove to be "typical" I'd anticipate Vick losing his starting spot to Agbaji. Vick's 3 point shot selection is HIGHLY suspect and combined with the way he's throwing the ball away, I'm now officially CRINGING every time he gets the ball and breathing huge sighs of relief when he doesn't screw up. Hell, I even trust Garrett more with the ball (3 assists, zero turnovers) because I think he's playing within his offensive limitations.
Hoping Vick figures it out, but not expecting it. Shot selection and turnovers are most often "mental" mistakes, and I'm not sure that Vick is smart enough or coachable enough to get on the right trajectory.
"When I was a freshman, I remember Coach Naismith telling us how important it was to play good defense." - Mitch Lightfoot
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5 years 3 months ago #20442
by NotOstertag
"When I was a freshman, I remember Coach Naismith telling us how important it was to play good defense." - Mitch Lightfoot
Sorry Wheaty. My original subject line was even more realistic, so I backed it down a little bit.
"When I was a freshman, I remember Coach Naismith telling us how important it was to play good defense." - Mitch Lightfoot
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5 years 3 months ago - 5 years 3 months ago #20443
by HawkErrant
First, thanks for the courtside commentary on Ochai, hoshi! High hopes for the lad to be an impact player the rest of the way.
On McCormack -- I'd love to see Big Dave get more time to hone his skills on both ends of the court, but I'm wondering how much of a chance he will be given to develop with the move to 4-1?
He had exactly 1 minute against TCU, which makes sense given the HFs penchant for playing small (other than 6-11 Kevin Samuel with 26 minutes, 6-8 JD Miller with 25 and 6-7 Kouat Noi with 28 accounting for 79 of the 200 minutes available, the rest of the guys that played the other 121 minutes were 6-5 or less).
And where does Big Dave matchup defensively against the Bears?
The situation against Baylor looks to be similar to the TCU game. 6-9 Tristan Clark (29.8 mpg) is a load, and Mario Kegler (28.6 mpg) is 6-7, but no one else averaging more than 15 minutes per game is over 6-5. Does Big Dave come in to battle against Clark?
I can see HCBS putting 6-6 Garrett against 6-9 Clark (14.2 PPG). 6-1 Dotson defends 6-1 Makai Mason (15.1 PPG) on D, and Dedric covers 6-7 Kegler (8.8 PPG). Who covers 6-3 King McClure, at 10.2 PPG, the 3rd best scorer and best 3pt shooter for the Bears? Slow footed but improving Grimes? "Where in the World is the Head of" Lagerald Vick? Maybe "I'm Ready to Play Today" Ochai? And whoever is left covers some combination of Vital/Butler/Bandoo?
I haven't looked at the rest of the Big 12 teams to see if there are any really tall teams this year. Maybe we see Big Dave's size and strength against Texas (next after BU) or currently 0-3 WVU after that?
If Big Dave can make the jump up to effective minutes in the paint, and Ochai can build upon his debut, we are going to be a tough nut for anyone to crack.
(Please note, folks - don't make my mistake, Dedric's name ends with a c, not a k. I always want to put that "k" on the end. )
"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain "Innocents Abroad"
hoshi wrote: Was at the game. The crowd was really into Agbaji playing. The kid is really smart on defense. He is a Self-player defensively and really moves his feet and always knows here his man is. His feeding D Lawson was really impressive. He is the antithesis of Vick but Vick going off in any one game may make up for his lapses. All Vick has to do is do a Newman in the last six games of the season. Will we win the Big 12, maybe, but I would rather see this team grow and be a force in March/April. Now we need McCormack to become Doke II.
First, thanks for the courtside commentary on Ochai, hoshi! High hopes for the lad to be an impact player the rest of the way.
On McCormack -- I'd love to see Big Dave get more time to hone his skills on both ends of the court, but I'm wondering how much of a chance he will be given to develop with the move to 4-1?
He had exactly 1 minute against TCU, which makes sense given the HFs penchant for playing small (other than 6-11 Kevin Samuel with 26 minutes, 6-8 JD Miller with 25 and 6-7 Kouat Noi with 28 accounting for 79 of the 200 minutes available, the rest of the guys that played the other 121 minutes were 6-5 or less).
And where does Big Dave matchup defensively against the Bears?
The situation against Baylor looks to be similar to the TCU game. 6-9 Tristan Clark (29.8 mpg) is a load, and Mario Kegler (28.6 mpg) is 6-7, but no one else averaging more than 15 minutes per game is over 6-5. Does Big Dave come in to battle against Clark?
I can see HCBS putting 6-6 Garrett against 6-9 Clark (14.2 PPG). 6-1 Dotson defends 6-1 Makai Mason (15.1 PPG) on D, and Dedric covers 6-7 Kegler (8.8 PPG). Who covers 6-3 King McClure, at 10.2 PPG, the 3rd best scorer and best 3pt shooter for the Bears? Slow footed but improving Grimes? "Where in the World is the Head of" Lagerald Vick? Maybe "I'm Ready to Play Today" Ochai? And whoever is left covers some combination of Vital/Butler/Bandoo?
I haven't looked at the rest of the Big 12 teams to see if there are any really tall teams this year. Maybe we see Big Dave's size and strength against Texas (next after BU) or currently 0-3 WVU after that?
If Big Dave can make the jump up to effective minutes in the paint, and Ochai can build upon his debut, we are going to be a tough nut for anyone to crack.
(Please note, folks - don't make my mistake, Dedric's name ends with a c, not a k. I always want to put that "k" on the end.
) "Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain "Innocents Abroad"
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