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Azubuike out for the Big 12 tournament
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7 years 6 months ago #17130
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Let's hope that this doesn't impact the NCAA, because that is huge!
Let's hope that this doesn't impact the NCAA, because that is huge!
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7 years 6 months ago - 7 years 6 months ago #17131
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"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain "Innocents Abroad"
Yikes!
Is this program snake bit or what?
First, this means any shot at a 1 seed should be out the window unless he can play. And IMO HCBS will be smart to keep mum on DOk's status until game 1 of the NCAAT.
Second, best possible worlds going forward...
Dok is okay for NCAAs.
DeSousa gets beaucoup playing time in at least one B12T game, and very, very hopefully two or three games (I'm not counting on two or three games, just saying this is the best possible world going forward).
Vick either shows up in the first five minutes or gets benched for Mitch, and James Sosinski and Clay Young are in harness and manage to help keep the ship afloat.
Best possible world alternative #2...
Dok is okay for NCAAs.
KU loses in its first B12T game and the team gets lots of time to prep for the Big Dance.
Either alternative, Dok has lots of time to practice his FT shooting.
Trying to keep a positive mental attitude here.
Is this program snake bit or what?
First, this means any shot at a 1 seed should be out the window unless he can play. And IMO HCBS will be smart to keep mum on DOk's status until game 1 of the NCAAT.
Second, best possible worlds going forward...
Dok is okay for NCAAs.
DeSousa gets beaucoup playing time in at least one B12T game, and very, very hopefully two or three games (I'm not counting on two or three games, just saying this is the best possible world going forward).
Vick either shows up in the first five minutes or gets benched for Mitch, and James Sosinski and Clay Young are in harness and manage to help keep the ship afloat.
Best possible world alternative #2...
Dok is okay for NCAAs.
KU loses in its first B12T game and the team gets lots of time to prep for the Big Dance.
Either alternative, Dok has lots of time to practice his FT shooting.
Trying to keep a positive mental attitude here.
"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain "Innocents Abroad"
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7 years 6 months ago #17139
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I too hope for the best, but this would certainly seem to mean the season will be over soon. They certainly aren't going to do much in the Big 12 tournament, and even if he can play in the NCAA, how effective will he be? Guess we will know more when he is reexamined Sunday. Wasn't very hopeful even with him. Now...Graham has been Ironman, don't know that he can be Superman as well.
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7 years 6 months ago #17140
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Just read that Ellis had the same kind of injury a few years back. He did come back and play, but wasn't close to 100 per cent. Hope this is different.
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7 years 6 months ago - 7 years 6 months ago #17146
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"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain "Innocents Abroad"
OU/OSU game — ESPN shows a graphic talking about the winner playing KU and how the last 5 years KU is short a player going into the tournament.
2014 Embid (back)
2015 Alexander (eligibility)
2016 Diallo (only played 1 minute)
2017 Josh Jackson (suspension)
2018 Azubuike (sprained MCL).
Yeah, I’d say that’s a good example of “snakebit”.
2014 Embid (back)
2015 Alexander (eligibility)
2016 Diallo (only played 1 minute)
2017 Josh Jackson (suspension)
2018 Azubuike (sprained MCL).
Yeah, I’d say that’s a good example of “snakebit”.
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7 years 6 months ago #17153
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“With kindest regards to Dr. Forrest C. Allen, the father of basketball coaching, from the father of the game.”
1936 inscription on the portrait of Dr. Naismith, displayed above Phog Allen's office desk at KU.
Words fail. Bad karma sure seems to have us in its sights when it comes to the post-season and playing with a full stable of horses.
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7 years 6 months ago #17156
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Seems to me we are witnessing Bill Self at his craftiest best.
Take your big guy out, he gets an few extra days of rest, and let Mitch and Silvio get unrestricted game time to improve. Put pressure on Vick and Newman to step up and cover the loss of Dok. Lose early in B12 tourney and get rest for everyone. The loss doesn't affect our seeding cuz we were not playing a full roster. And if it does impact seeding, we're a 2 instead of a 1. Who cares.
And note that Self said "these kinds of things heal real quick, like 48 hours". Brilliant !!
Take your big guy out, he gets an few extra days of rest, and let Mitch and Silvio get unrestricted game time to improve. Put pressure on Vick and Newman to step up and cover the loss of Dok. Lose early in B12 tourney and get rest for everyone. The loss doesn't affect our seeding cuz we were not playing a full roster. And if it does impact seeding, we're a 2 instead of a 1. Who cares.
And note that Self said "these kinds of things heal real quick, like 48 hours". Brilliant !!
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7 years 6 months ago #17159
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"When I was a freshman, I remember Coach Naismith telling us how important it was to play good defense." - Mitch Lightfoot
I don't think that it's a ruse. I do think it will give De Sousa a great opportunity to get better and will light a fire under Vick's butt.
I also expect to see some zone now.
Vick really needs to step it up. In the two games vs. OSU he averaged 6.5pts and 5 boards. That's well below his 12 point average,and below his 6 boards/game average (which I think SHOULD be much higher if he were more aggressive).
I expect our guys to be very very motivated today, and Dok's injury will just make increase their motivation.
As for the NCAA's....that's not on the radar yet.
I also expect to see some zone now.
Vick really needs to step it up. In the two games vs. OSU he averaged 6.5pts and 5 boards. That's well below his 12 point average,and below his 6 boards/game average (which I think SHOULD be much higher if he were more aggressive).
I expect our guys to be very very motivated today, and Dok's injury will just make increase their motivation.
As for the NCAA's....that's not on the radar yet.
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7 years 6 months ago #17164
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We'll never know for sure, but I really do believe it's an opportunistic set of circumstances that gives us everything we need - rest, an excuse for not winning the B12 tourney (which by the way would do nothing for us but make us more tired starting the big tourney), and a situation that gets a couple guys some valuable minutes who we will need going forward.
Maybe Dok strained his knee, but I'll bet a lot on the theory that Self is taking full advantage of a small tweak here. Didn't this happen last year too? Someone tweaked something and sat out the tournament?
Maybe Dok strained his knee, but I'll bet a lot on the theory that Self is taking full advantage of a small tweak here. Didn't this happen last year too? Someone tweaked something and sat out the tournament?
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7 years 6 months ago #17170
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Motivated or not, they are simply playing a team they didn't match up will with at all with Dok. Now without him, Okie State will guard the 3 pt. line even more tightly, without fear of giving up much down low. I will be very surprised if KU keeps it within 10. But...at least it should mean a lot of good experience for Silvio.
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7 years 6 months ago #17186
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"When I was a freshman, I remember Coach Naismith telling us how important it was to play good defense." - Mitch Lightfoot
Just heard HCBS talking about Dok's injury and comparing it to Perry.
Bad news first: HCBS was 'hopeful' that Dok could be back in a week. He positioned it as, "I've seen it before, so we hope he can get back by next week." That's a lot more pessimistic than the "no big deal, we'll rest it this weekend so he'll be good next week."
Good news: He mentioned Perry and how he wasn't really the same afterward. He also mentioned that Perry's game was built around a lot more mobility, especially lateral mobility. He said Dok is more of a straight ahead guy, so he should have less of an impact on how he plays.
Hoping they're doing everything they can for him.
Bad news first: HCBS was 'hopeful' that Dok could be back in a week. He positioned it as, "I've seen it before, so we hope he can get back by next week." That's a lot more pessimistic than the "no big deal, we'll rest it this weekend so he'll be good next week."
Good news: He mentioned Perry and how he wasn't really the same afterward. He also mentioned that Perry's game was built around a lot more mobility, especially lateral mobility. He said Dok is more of a straight ahead guy, so he should have less of an impact on how he plays.
Hoping they're doing everything they can for him.
"When I was a freshman, I remember Coach Naismith telling us how important it was to play good defense." - Mitch Lightfoot
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“With kindest regards to Dr. Forrest C. Allen, the father of basketball coaching, from the father of the game.”
1936 inscription on the portrait of Dr. Naismith, displayed above Phog Allen's office desk at KU.
Ugh. That doesn't sound as hopeful as we were all crossing our fingers to hear.
Heal fast, big guy!
Nice sub relief today, however, by Lightfoot and DeSousa. 12 points and 12 rebounds last I checked. We'll take that! (For today...need Dok back for the Dance)
Heal fast, big guy!
Nice sub relief today, however, by Lightfoot and DeSousa. 12 points and 12 rebounds last I checked. We'll take that! (For today...need Dok back for the Dance)
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"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain "Innocents Abroad"
Holly Rowe saying she’s been watching Dok and he’s getting up and down with ease.
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7 years 6 months ago #17205
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RKCKJHK!!!
What an opportunity for Lightfoot and DeSousa today. And what a response from both! What a W.
RKCKJHK!!!
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“With kindest regards to Dr. Forrest C. Allen, the father of basketball coaching, from the father of the game.”
1936 inscription on the portrait of Dr. Naismith, displayed above Phog Allen's office desk at KU.
Yep, they done good.
I bet Coach could've wrung Mitch's neck with that really dumb foul on the three ball late, when OSU was still within striking distance of a comeback, but Self must've felt good about his overall game since he gave him a big slap on the keester.
Great job by both bigs in the backup role. Very impressive win.
I bet Coach could've wrung Mitch's neck with that really dumb foul on the three ball late, when OSU was still within striking distance of a comeback, but Self must've felt good about his overall game since he gave him a big slap on the keester.
Great job by both bigs in the backup role. Very impressive win.
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