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6 years 3 months ago #15956
by asteroid
Happy Kansas Day, everyone.
Out of curiosity, does anyone know how often the schedulers have put a
Kansas versus Kansas State basketball game on Kansas Day?
Don't look now, but Kansas State is Sagarin's #1 team in the "Recent Games"
rating method. Those four consecutive above-expectation performances against
Kansas, Oklahoma, TCU, and Baylor have given the Wildcats a positive trend
and a positive mental toughness rating, though neither is statistically
significant. Although they won their Challenge game against Georgia, they
did play a couple points below expectation. Meanwhile, Kansas has been
playing below expectation more often than not, but mostly getting away with
it. The trend and mental toughness statistics are both negative for Kansas
and statistically significant. We saw a glimpse of what is possible in the
first half against Texas A&M. Newman seems to have turned the corner, and
Vick may also be past his nadir. Graham might be in another mild shooting
slump, while Svi has shown more consistency in his senior season than at
any other point in his college career. Doke has been steadily improving,
except at the charity stripe. De Sousa finally played some minutes without
fouling or turning the ball over, though it's still too early to consider
him an asset. Lightfoot has been a pleasant surprise in recent games.
Garrett is an asset on defense, and might be learning where his offense is
likely to come from (and it's usually NOT going to come from behind the arc).
Cunliffe is an enigma; good energy, but not a high basketball IQ yet. So
it's largely the same team that played Kansas State a couple weeks ago.
The various prognosticators are mixed on the outcome of this game. Sagarin
Blue is the most optimistic, a 4.7 point win. Sagarin Recent Games is the
most pessimistic, a 12.2 point loss. Pomeroy gives Kansas the nod, Massey
does not. The BPI favors Kansas, the trend analysis does not. The average
is 0.63 points in favor of Kansas. Prepare yourself for another nail biter.
At least this time Seven Overtimes has the venue correct. But while predicting
that the home team will win by 4 points, the confidence that the home team will
win is only 39 percent. Huh? Isn't that backward?
According to the RPI, Temple has the #1 strength of schedule; Kansas is #2,
and close enough that a tough road game like today's could propel Kansas into
the #1 spot. But Temple plays Wichita State in a few days, which will probably
give the #1 spot right back to them, but only temporarily, as Tulane, East
Carolina, and South Florida are up after that; Tulane is 12-8, while the other
two have losing records.
Among the eight key offensive stats, Kansas has the advantage in seven of them;
Kansas State attempts more free throws per field goal attempt. Among the seven
key defensive stats, Kansas has the advantage in five of them; Kansas State holds
opponents to fewer points per game and steals more balls per game.
Common Opponents
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There are seven common opponents, six in conference plus Arizona State, and
the head-to-head in Lawrence, giving us eight scores to compare:
KU -10 ASU at home (-13 neutral court)
KSU -2 ASU neutral ( -2 neutral court)
KU -14 KSU on road (-11 neutral court)
KU +5 ISU at home ( +2 neutral court)
KSU +16 ISU on road (+19 neutral court)
KU -20 KSU on road (-17 neutral court)
KU +5 WVU on road ( +8 neutral court)
KSU -8 WVU at home (-11 neutral court)
KU +16 KSU on road (+19 neutral court)
KU -12 TTU at home (-15 neutral court)
KSU -16 TTU on road (-13 neutral court)
KU -5 KSU on road ( -2 neutral court)
KU -5 OU on road ( -2 neutral court)
KSU +18 OU at home (+15 neutral court)
KU -20 KSU on road (-17 neutral court)
KU +4 TCU on road ( +7 neutral court)
KSU +5 TCU at home ( +2 neutral court)
KU +2 KSU on road ( +5 neutral court)
KU +3 BU at home ( 0 neutral court)
KSU +7 BU on road (+10 neutral court)
KU -13 KSU on road (-10 neutral court)
KU +1 KSU at home ( -2 neutral court)
KU -5 KSU on road ( -2 neutral court)
Six of the comparisons favor Kansas State, while only two favor Kansas. The
average favors Kansas State by 7.4 points.
Players to Watch
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Most minutes Barry Brown guard
Leading scorer Barry Brown guard
Leading rebounder Dean Wade forward
Most assists Kamau Stokes guard
Most steals Barry Brown guard
Most blocks Makol Mawien forward
Most turnovers Barry Brown guard
Most fouls Makol Mawien forward
Note that Kamau Stokes is out indefinitely with a foot injury. He's been
averaging 13 points a game for the Wildcats. That's almost 7 points more
than their sixth man, so his loss is a significant blow. Also, James Love
did not play in the previous game due to the flu, and it's unknown whether
he's recovered enough to play today's game; on the other hand, he averages
only 2 minutes per game anyway, so no major loss there. Nigel Shadd has
averaged 6 minutes per game, and he's out with a knee injury.
17-4 16-5
Margin Predicted Win Prb Kansas Kansas State
Predictor points Score percent Rating SOS Rating SOS
==================== ====== ========= ======= ============= =============
Sagarin Overall +3.26 76 73 # 6 # 6 # 33 # 67
Sagarin Predictor +4.37 76 72 64.7 # 6 # 6 # 41 # 67
Sagarin Golden Mean +2.73 76 73 # 6 # 6 # 34 # 67
Sagarin Recent Games -12.15 68 80 # 21 # 6 # 1 # 67
Sagarin Off-Def Meth +4.00 75 71
Sagarin Combo +3.05 76 73 # 5 # 6 # 34 # 77
Sagarin Elo +1.38 75 74 # 6 # 6 # 30 # 77
Sagarin Blue +4.73 77 72 # 6 # 6 # 40 # 77
performance adjust +4.55 77 72
trend adjust -1.91 73 75
Massey -1.00 73 74 47.0 # 9 # 3 # 32 # 55
Pomeroy +0.93 73 72 # 9 # 7 # 35 # 79
Greenfield +1.50 74 73 # 6 # 4 # 38 # 41
Dunkel -1.00 70.5 71.5 # 12 # 36
Vegas (via Dunkel) +2.00 74.5 72.5
Real Time RPI -2.00 77 79 # 7 # 3 # 49 #121
Real Time GAMER -2.00 77 79 45.8 # 7 # 3 # 49 #121
Dolphin Predictive +1.63 74 73 55.6 # 7 # 7 # 31 # 45
ESPN BPI +4.10 65.6 # 7 # 16 # 39 # 62
Seven Overtimes -4.00 72 76 61.0 # 4 # 2 # 40 # 55
Whitlock +2.48 # 8 # 4 # 36 # 68
DPPI +1.60 78.5 77 54.3 # 9 # 4 # 43 #107
Colley Matrix +4.27 # 6 # 2 # 37 # 82
CBN RPI # 7 # 2 # 56 #141
LRMC # 8 # 1 # 35 # 77
common opponents -7.38
==================== ====== ========= ======= ============ ============
average +0.63 +/- 4.08
Here is Kansas' season; all remaining games are projected wins, with the
toughest being the road game in Lubbock, which follows a pair of home
games against West Virginia and Oklahoma, a crucial three-game stretch.
The projected season record remains at 24-7:
SITE OPPONENT SCORE PREDIC ERROR PROB.
---- ----------------------------- ------- ------ ----- -----
HOME #221 Tennessee State 92 56 +27.31 +8.69
NEUT # 14 Kentucky 65 61 +4.55 -0.55
HOME # 95 South Dakota State 98 64 +17.89 +16.11
HOME #228 Texas Southern 114 71 +28.01 +14.99
HOME #128 Oakland-Mich. 102 59 +20.96 +22.04
HOME #108 Toledo 96 58 +19.12 +18.88
NEUT # 44 Syracuse 76 60 +8.58 +7.42
HOME # 96 Washington 65 74 +17.96 -26.96
HOME # 35 Arizona State 85 95 +10.44 -20.44
AWAY # 70 Nebraska 73 72 +9.21 -8.21
HOME #251 Omaha(Neb.-Omaha) 109 64 +29.36 +15.64
AWAY # 91 Stanford 75 54 +11.17 +9.83
AWAY # 33 Texas 92 86 +3.91 +2.09
HOME # 13 Texas Tech 73 85 +7.08 -19.08
AWAY # 22 TCU 88 84 +2.53 +1.47
HOME # 85 Iowa State 83 78 +16.80 -11.80
HOME # 41 Kansas State 73 72 +10.75 -9.75
AWAY # 8 West Virginia 71 66 -1.44 +6.44
HOME # 36 Baylor 70 67 +10.49 -7.49
AWAY # 19 Oklahoma 80 85 +2.05 -7.05
HOME # 30 Texas A&M 79 68 +9.99 +1.01
AWAY # 41 Kansas State +4.37 0.647
HOME # 52 Oklahoma State +13.28 0.869
HOME # 22 TCU +8.91 0.787
AWAY # 36 Baylor +4.11 0.634
AWAY # 85 Iowa State +10.42 0.788
HOME # 8 West Virginia +4.94 0.637
HOME # 19 Oklahoma +8.43 0.754
AWAY # 13 Texas Tech +0.70 0.522
HOME # 33 Texas +10.29 0.814
AWAY # 52 Oklahoma State +6.90 0.720
Here is Kansas State's season:
SITE OPPONENT SCORE PREDIC ERROR PROB.
---- ----------------------------- ------- ------ ----- -----
HOME #321 American U. 83 45 +26.65 +11.35
HOME #308 Kansas City(UMKC) 72 51 +25.72 -4.72
HOME #161 UC Irvine 71 49 +15.70 +6.30
HOME #328 Northern Arizona 80 58 +28.02 -6.02
NEUT # 35 Arizona State 90 92 -0.31 -1.69
NEUT #189 George Washington 67 59 +14.38 -6.38
HOME #218 Oral Roberts 77 68 +19.63 -10.63
AWAY # 75 Vanderbilt 84 79 +2.04 +2.96
HOME #330 USC Upstate 86 49 +28.26 +8.74
NEUT #118 Tulsa 54 61 +9.23 -16.23
HOME #260 SE Missouri State(SEMO) 89 71 +22.44 -4.44
AWAY #153 Washington State 68 65 +8.50 -5.50
AWAY # 85 Iowa State 91 75 +2.86 +13.14
HOME # 8 West Virginia 69 77 -2.62 -5.38
AWAY # 13 Texas Tech 58 74 -6.86 -9.14
HOME # 52 Oklahoma State 86 82 +5.72 -1.72
AWAY # 6 Kansas 72 73 -10.75 +9.75
HOME # 19 Oklahoma 87 69 +0.87 +17.13
HOME # 22 TCU 73 68 +1.35 +3.65
AWAY # 36 Baylor 90 83 -3.45 +10.45
HOME # 65 Georgia 56 51 +7.12 -2.12
HOME # 6 Kansas -4.37 0.353
AWAY # 8 West Virginia -9.00 0.227
AWAY # 33 Texas -3.65 0.341
HOME # 13 Texas Tech -0.48 0.481
AWAY # 52 Oklahoma State -0.66 0.472
HOME # 85 Iowa State +9.24 0.806
HOME # 33 Texas +2.73 0.621
AWAY # 19 Oklahoma -5.51 0.287
AWAY # 22 TCU -5.03 0.275
HOME # 36 Baylor +2.93 0.621
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