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6 years 3 months ago #15311
by asteroid
I absolutely HATE these early tips. The one silver lining is that because of
the early tip, I can watch the game live. As soon as it's done, I head to the
airport. Predictions range from a high of 16 points in favor of Kansas (courtesy
of Real Time, one of the less reliable prognosticators) down to 3 points in favor
of Kansas, courtesy of Sagarin Recent Games. However, there is one considerably
more ominous prediction, courtesy of common opponents. Kansas State did a better
job against Arizona State, Iowa State, and Texas Tech than Kansas did. The average
predicts a 7 point loss by Kansas. But the Wildcats are minus Stokes, while the
Jayhawks are plus De Sousa.
Did I mention that I HATE these early tips?
Among the eight key offensive stats, Kansas has the advantage in six of them;
Kansas State has a higher offensive rebound percentage, and attempts more free
throws per field goal attempt. Among the seven key defensive stats, Kansas has
the advantage in five of them; Kansas State holds opponents to fewer points per
game, and steals more balls per game.
Common Opponents
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Both teams have played Arizona State, Iowa State, and Texas Tech. The
comparisons do not favor Kansas.
KU -10 ASU at home (-13 neutral court)
KSU -2 ASU neutral ( -2 neutral court)
KU -8 KSU at home (-11 neutral court)
KU +5 ISU at home ( +2 neutral court)
KSU +16 ISU on road (+19 neutral court)
KU -14 KSU at home (-17 neutral court)
KU -12 TTU at home (-15 neutral court)
KSU -16 TTU on road (-13 neutral court)
KU +1 KSU at home ( -2 neutral court)
The average favors Kansas State by 7 points.
Players to Watch
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Most minutes Barry Brown guard
Leading scorer Barry Brown guard
Leading rebounder Dean Wade forward
Most assists Kamau Stokes guard
Most steals Barry Brown guard
Most blocks Makol Mawien forward
Most turnovers Barry Brown guard
Most fouls Makol Mawien forward
Note that Kamau Stokes is out indefinitely with a foot injury. He's been
averaging 13 points a game for the Wildcats. That's 8 points more than their
sixth man, so his loss is a significant blow.
The latest word on Billy Preston is that there is no word as well as no
timetable. However, Silvio De Sousa has been cleared to play. That represents
a boost for Kansas. How big a boost is uncertain.
Did I mention that I HATE these early tips?
13-3 12-4
Margin Predicted Win Prb Kansas Kansas State
Predictor points Score percent Rating SOS Rating SOS
==================== ====== ========= ======= ============= =============
Sagarin Overall +11.85 81 69 # 4 # 12 # 45 #172
Sagarin Predictor +13.01 81 68 85.9 # 5 # 12 # 48 #172
Sagarin Golden Mean +10.99 80 69 # 8 # 12 # 46 #172
Sagarin Recent Games +2.81 76 73 # 24 # 12 # 22 #172
Sagarin Off-Def Meth +14.33 81 67
Sagarin Combo +13.02 81 68 # 8 # 15 # 48 #220
Sagarin Elo +11.60 81 69 # 12 # 15 # 45 #220
Sagarin Blue +15.23 82 67 # 5 # 15 # 54 #220
performance adjust +14.33 82 68
trend adjust +10.71 80 69
Massey +9.00 79 70 82 # 13 # 5 # 49 # 77
Pomeroy +9.82 79 69 # 9 # 17 # 48 #209
Greenfield +12.00 82 70 # 5 # 9 # 50 # 62
Dunkel +7.50 82 75 # 10 # 55
Vegas (via Dunkel) +12.50 80 68
Real Time RPI +16.00 89 73 # 9 # 6 # 63 #200
Real Time GAMER +16.00 89 73 79.2 # 9 # 6 # 63 #200
Dolphin Predictive +12.25 81 69 84.8 # 8 # 54
ESPN BPI +13.60 89.3 # 6 # 33 # 47 #131
Seven Overtimes +6.00 78 72 67 # 3 # 14 # 44 # 85
Whitlock +11.55 # 10 # 4 # 57 #102
DPPI +13.80 86 72 91.8 # 11 # 7 # 51 #152
Colley Matrix +12.09 # 9 # 3 # 57 #148
CBN RPI # 12 # 8 # 95 #207
LRMC # 9 # 4 # 56 #141
common opponents -7.00
==================== ====== ========= ======= ============ ============
average +11.0 +/- 4.9
Here is Kansas' season; the road game with West Virginia is a projected
loss, while the road game with Texas Tech is a toss-up. The projected
season record remains at 24-7:
SITE OPPONENT SCORE PREDIC ERROR PROB.
---- ----------------------------- ------- ------ ----- -----
HOME #223 Tennessee State 92 56 +28.08 +7.92
NEUT # 17 Kentucky 65 61 +5.22 -1.22
HOME # 91 South Dakota State 98 64 +18.49 +15.51
HOME #200 Texas Southern 114 71 +26.76 +16.24
HOME #137 Oakland-Mich. 102 59 +22.17 +20.83
HOME #135 Toledo 96 58 +22.11 +15.89
NEUT # 45 Syracuse 76 60 +9.32 +6.68
HOME # 97 Washington 65 74 +19.08 -28.08
HOME # 26 Arizona State 85 95 +9.96 -19.96
AWAY # 84 Nebraska 73 72 +11.31 -10.31
HOME #245 Omaha(Neb.-Omaha) 109 64 +29.62 +15.38
AWAY #102 Stanford 75 54 +13.03 +7.97
AWAY # 30 Texas 92 86 +4.03 +1.97
HOME # 12 Texas Tech 73 85 +6.28 -18.28
AWAY # 23 TCU 88 84 +3.24 +0.76
HOME # 81 Iowa State 83 78 +17.47 -12.47
HOME # 48 Kansas State +13.01 0.859
AWAY # 9 West Virginia -0.88 0.476
HOME # 28 Baylor +10.09 0.785
AWAY # 14 Oklahoma +1.57 0.548
HOME # 24 Texas A&M +9.71 0.770
AWAY # 48 Kansas State +6.63 0.708
HOME # 55 Oklahoma State +13.94 0.866
HOME # 23 TCU +9.62 0.789
AWAY # 28 Baylor +3.71 0.614
AWAY # 81 Iowa State +11.09 0.791
HOME # 9 West Virginia +5.50 0.645
HOME # 14 Oklahoma +7.95 0.730
AWAY # 12 Texas Tech -0.10 0.497
HOME # 30 Texas +10.41 0.801
AWAY # 55 Oklahoma State +7.56 0.726
Here is Kansas State's season:
SITE OPPONENT SCORE PREDIC ERROR PROB.
---- ----------------------------- ------- ------ ----- -----
HOME #319 American U. 83 45 +25.31 +12.69
HOME #307 Kansas City(UMKC) 72 51 +23.84 -2.84
HOME #180 UC Irvine 71 49 +15.27 +6.73
HOME #333 Northern Arizona 80 58 +27.38 -5.38
NEUT # 26 Arizona State 90 92 -3.05 +1.05
NEUT #183 George Washington 67 59 +12.27 -4.27
HOME #201 Oral Roberts 77 68 +16.95 -7.95
AWAY # 75 Vanderbilt 84 79 +0.69 +4.31
HOME #320 USC Upstate 86 49 +25.33 +11.67
NEUT #126 Tulsa 54 61 +8.53 -15.53
HOME #269 SE Missouri State(SEMO) 89 71 +21.31 -3.31
AWAY #159 Washington State 68 65 +7.26 -4.26
AWAY # 81 Iowa State 91 75 +1.27 +14.73
HOME # 9 West Virginia 69 77 -4.32 -3.68
AWAY # 12 Texas Tech 58 74 -9.92 -6.08
HOME # 55 Oklahoma State 86 82 +4.12 -0.12
AWAY # 5 Kansas -13.01 0.141
HOME # 14 Oklahoma -1.87 0.422
HOME # 23 TCU -0.20 0.490
AWAY # 28 Baylor -6.11 0.253
HOME # 57 Georgia +4.98 0.696
HOME # 5 Kansas -6.63 0.292
AWAY # 9 West Virginia -10.70 0.182
AWAY # 30 Texas -5.79 0.250
HOME # 12 Texas Tech -3.54 0.358
AWAY # 55 Oklahoma State -2.26 0.401
HOME # 81 Iowa State +7.65 0.768
HOME # 30 Texas +0.59 0.527
AWAY # 14 Oklahoma -8.25 0.193
AWAY # 23 TCU -6.58 0.207
HOME # 28 Baylor +0.27 0.512
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