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Big 12 projection, Round 1
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7 years 4 months ago #15031
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Texas leapfrogged both Baylor and TCU in the projected standings, even though all three of them
lost their games. That's because Baylor lost rather badly and therefore dropped in the ratings,
and TCU's game was more of a toss-up game, so by losing, the Horned Frogs lost nearly half of a
projected win, while Texas lost only something closer to a third of a projected win. The teams
in the middle of the pack are so close to one another that tiny changes like these can shuffle
the projected standings. No other changes. We'll find out Tuesday just how for-real Texas Tech
is.
Init. Rnd 1
Pred Proj. Proj. Conf
Rank Big XII Team Wins Wins Record Next Game Prediction
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# 2 Kansas 13.09 13.61 1 0 TTU (Tu) KU by 8.4
# 8 West Virginia 11.22 11.61 1 0 @KSU (Mo) WVU by 3.4 projected road win
# 11 Texas Tech 10.24 11.08 1 0 @KU (Tu)
# 19 Oklahoma 9.97 10.47 1 0 OSU (We) OU by 8.1
# 26 Texas 8.92 8.59 0 1 @ISU (Mo) UT by 4.7 projected road win
# 32 Baylor 9.34 8.35 0 1 TCU (Tu) BU by 2.8
# 29 TCU 8.93 8.30 0 1 @BU (Tu)
# 41 Kansas State 6.82 7.76 1 0 WVU (Mo)
# 53 Oklahoma State 6.64 6.22 0 1 @OU (We)
# 85 Iowa State 4.83 4.01 0 1 UT (Mo)
Right now, the closest thing we'll have to a predicted blowout will be when Iowa State comes to
Allen Field House, for which the current predicted margin is 19 points. The parity in the Big 12
is going to give us more rounds like Round 1, with all the games predicted to be within 5 points
of one another. Three games fall into that category for Round 2, but if Texas Tech is for real,
Tueday's game with Kansas could be closer than predicted. Does Oklahoma State have an answer for
Trae Young? I don't think so. Give Oklahoma the nod for easiest game of the round. But who
scheduled Bedlam for when the students are away? In my best Judge Clark Brown, "Out-ra-geous."
I will, of course, be updating the predictions with the latest ratings on game day.
Predictions
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KU over TTU 8.4 5.0 5.2 8.8 7.0
OU over OSU 8.1 8.0 9.3 10.2 6.0
UT over ISU 4.7 2.0 5.9 0.3 1.0
WVU over KSU 3.4 1.0 2.0 0.1 -5.0
BU over TCU 2.8 3.0 1.7 1.3 -1.0
One of Yours Truly's modifications to Sagarin Predictor took honors for best prognostications in
Round 1. Adjusting for performance and the Big 12 home court advantage of 2.69 points, rather
than using Sagarin's 3.15 points, led to an average error in the predicted margin of just 6.4
points. The trend analysis did badly, mainly because Iowa State showed a strong positive trend
after their two early season losses, but they lost badly at home to Kansas State. But Real Time
turned in the real stinker of a performance in Round 1, while Colley and Seven Overtimes deserve
dishonorable mention.
Predictions
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KU over UT 5.0 3.0 2.1 4.5 6.0 2.0 3.7 1.3 3.0 4.9 -5.0 -4.0 7.6 8.0 -1.3
WVU over OSU 4.7 1.0 3.0 3.0 -1.0 3.5 3.0 0.8 1.6 2.8 -5.0 -3.0 4.5 5.0 6.3
TTU over BU 4.5 5.0 5.9 7.0 2.0 6.0 8.6 7.5 9.5 7.3 9.0 15.0 7.2 6.7 6.5
TCU over OU 1.7 3.0 1.8 2.5 6.0 2.5 1.9 6.5 2.4 5.8 5.0 12.0 0.2 -0.2 -1.9
KSU over ISU 1.0 -2.0 0.8 1.5 1.5 -2.0 1.7 -5.9 0.5 -0.9 0.0 -8.0 4.6 5.0 -11.8
Reality Error 1
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6 1.0 3.0 3.9 1.5 0.0 4.0 2.3 4.7 3.0 1.1 11.0 10.0 1.6 2.0 7.3
6 1.3 5.0 3.0 3.0 7.0 2.5 3.0 5.2 4.4 3.2 11.0 9.0 1.5 1.0 0.3
24 19.5 19.0 18.1 17.0 22.0 18.0 15.4 16.5 14.5 16.7 15.0 9.0 16.8 17.3 17.5
-1 2.7 4.0 2.8 3.5 7.0 3.5 2.9 7.5 3.4 6.8 6.0 13.0 1.2 0.8 0.9
16 15.0 18.0 15.2 14.5 14.5 18.0 14.3 21.9 15.5 16.9 16.0 24.0 11.4 11.0 27.8
total 39.5 49.0 43.0 39.5 50.5 46.0 37.9 55.8 40.8 44.7 59.0 65.0 32.5 32.1 53.8
previous
cumulative 39.5 49.0 43.0 39.5 50.5 46.0 37.9 55.8 40.8 44.7 59.0 65.0 32.5 32.1 53.8
per game 7.9 9.8 8.6 7.9 10.1 9.2 7.6 11.2 8.2 8.9 11.8 13.0 6.5 6.4 10.8
Four road wins in the first five games. That might be unprecedented. And only three were
projected. It may be an indication of a continuing trend in the decline of the home court
advantage in the Big 12 conference. Two more road wins are projected for Round 2, though
both may be tenuous. Kansas State played well enough against Iowa State to potentially
knock off West Virginia, and Iowa State may bounce back from their home loss to handle
Texas, perhaps with a little bit of help from Hilton Magic.
Road wins (4 out of 5) Home losses Differential (RW-HL)
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1 Kansas UT 0 Baylor +1 Kansas
1 Kansas State ISU 0 Kansas +1 Kansas State
1 Oklahoma TCU 0 Kansas State +1 Oklahoma
1 West Virginia OSU 0 Oklahoma +1 West Virginia
0 Baylor 0 Texas Tech 0 Baylor
0 Iowa State 0 West Virginia 0 Texas Tech
0 Oklahoma State 1 Iowa State KSU -1 Iowa State
0 TCU 1 Oklahoma State WVU -1 Oklahoma State
0 Texas 1 TCU OU -1 TCU
0 Texas Tech 1 Texas KU -1 Texas
The two most underrated teams in the Big 12 will be squaring off on Tuesday. The negative
trend and mental toughness for Kansas both improved, but they're still the worst in the Big 12.
Performance (points) Inconsistency (points)
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Texas Tech +3.08 Kansas State 8.70
Kansas +2.39 TCU 8.84
Oklahoma +2.08 Texas 9.76
TCU +0.62 Oklahoma State 9.93
Oklahoma State +0.37 Baylor 10.68
Kansas State +0.30 Texas Tech 10.89
West Virginia +0.29 Oklahoma 10.91
Texas -0.06 Iowa State 12.94
Baylor -0.62 Kansas 14.92
Iowa State -3.90 West Virginia 15.62
Trend (points per game) Mental toughness
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Oklahoma +0.69 +/- 0.93 Iowa State +0.39 +/- 0.33
Iowa State +0.10 +/- 1.13 Texas Tech +0.24 +/- 0.27
West Virginia +0.02 +/- 1.21 Oklahoma +0.21 +/- 0.27
TCU -0.05 +/- 0.68 Texas +0.11 +/- 0.21
Texas Tech -0.09 +/- 0.84 TCU +0.06 +/- 0.32
Kansas State -0.24 +/- 0.67 Kansas State 0.00 +/- 0.25
Oklahoma State -0.73 +/- 0.74 Baylor -0.16 +/- 0.22
Texas -0.89 +/- 0.71 Oklahoma State -0.16 +/- 0.24
Baylor -1.12 +/- 0.87 West Virginia -0.20 +/- 0.36
Kansas -1.18 +/- 1.10 Kansas -0.76 +/- 0.46
Oklahoma and TCU certainly lived up to their high total point averages. By virtue of playing
Kansas on the road, Texas Tech's schedule strength ought to get out of the 300s. Ditto for
Kansas State by virtue of playing West Virginia.
Average offense (pts) Average defense (pts) Total Points Scoring Margin (pts)
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Oklahoma 94.00 Texas Tech 59.77 Oklahoma 174.58 Texas Tech +20.00
Kansas 87.08 Kansas State 63.85 TCU 161.54 Kansas +19.08
TCU 86.08 Texas 63.92 Kansas 155.08 West Virginia +18.62
West Virginia 84.00 West Virginia 65.38 West Virginia 149.38 Oklahoma +13.42
Texas Tech 79.77 Baylor 66.75 Iowa State 146.67 Kansas State +13.38
Baylor 78.08 Kansas 68.00 Oklahoma State 146.54 Baylor +11.33
Oklahoma State 77.85 Oklahoma State 68.69 Baylor 144.83 TCU +10.62
Kansas State 77.23 Iowa State 72.33 Kansas State 141.08 Oklahoma State +9.15
Iowa State 74.33 TCU 75.46 Texas Tech 139.54 Texas +8.23
Texas 72.15 Oklahoma 80.58 Texas 136.08 Iowa State +2.00
Schedule Strength
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Texas 77.05 ( 24)
Kansas 76.11 ( 38)
Oklahoma 75.41 ( 51)
TCU 72.73 (144)
Iowa State 71.04 (210)
West Virginia 70.08 (266)
Oklahoma State 69.89 (278)
Baylor 69.83 (279)
Kansas State 69.06 (305)
Texas Tech 68.24 (324)
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