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initial Big 12 projection
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7 years 4 months ago #14961
by asteroid
"Things that are inevitable: death, taxes, and Kansas winning the Big 12."
--Doug Gottlieb
So begins the quest for #14 in a row. The Sagarin Predictor ratings as of Saturday's games,
which were the last non-conference games to be played prior to the onset of conference action,
give Kansas a two-game lead in the initial projection. West Virginia is a legitimate
contender, while Texas Tech needs to show they're worthy of their lofty ranking after playing
something besides the #333 ranked schedule in Division I. Yeah, they beat Nevada, Northwestern,
and Boston College (who beat Duke), all Top 100 opponents, as well as a somewhat weaker Wofford
team (who beat North Carolina), but lost to Seton Hall. Still, with the way Trae Young has been
playing, I'd put Oklahoma ahead of Texas Tech in the projection. The Sooners open on the road
against an undefeated TCU team, and are projected to lose, but by only 1.5 points, so they have
a 46 percent chance of winning. It's a crucial game to open conference play. Indeed, all five
games have predicted margins of fewer than 5 points, which means they could easily go either way.
Init.
Pred Proj. Conf
Rank Big XII Team Wins Record Next Game Prediction
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# 3 Kansas 13.09 0 0 @UT (Fr) KU by 4.9 projected road win
# 8 West Virginia 11.22 0 0 @OSU (Fr) WVU by 4.7 projected road win
# 15 Texas Tech 10.24 0 0 BU (Fr) TTU by 4.5
# 18 Oklahoma 9.97 0 0 @TCU (Sa)
# 26 Baylor 9.34 0 0 @TTU (Fr)
# 30 TCU 8.93 0 0 OU (Sa) TCU by 1.5
# 29 Texas 8.92 0 0 KU (Fr)
# 45 Kansas State 6.82 0 0 @ISU (Fr) KSU by 1.0 projected road win
# 51 Oklahoma State 6.64 0 0 WVU (Fr)
# 74 Iowa State 4.83 0 0 KSU (Fr)
ESPN's BPI includes a "Matchup Quality" index, and the top three games on Friday are all in the
Big 12. Friday's fourth Big 12 game is #6 in the list. The lone Big 12 Saturday game is 5th.
Can you believe that Dick Vitale said the Big 12 is down this year???
Predictions
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KU over UT 4.9 3.0 2.1 2.6 3.8 3.0 4.7 -5.0 7.4 7.8 -1.2 -4.0
WVU over OSU 4.7 1.0 3.0 2.1 3.0 1.6 2.8 -5.0 4.4 4.8 6.2 -3.0
TTU over BU 4.5 5.0 5.2 7.5 8.5 9.5 7.2 9.0 7.1 6.7 6.4 17.0
TCU over OU 1.5 3.0 1.5 7.5 1.2 2.0 5.8 5.0 -3.6 -4.1 -4.9 11.0
KSU over ISU 1.0 -2.0 0.7 -6.7 2.0 0.5 -1.1 0.0 4.6 5.0 -11.7 -9.0
Last season we saw 35 road wins out of 90 games, which might be a record for as long as
I've been tracking the conference. The long term average has been right around one in
three, or 30 road wins per season. 32 or 33 would not be unusual; 35 is. But we're
starting with a clean slate. There are 3 road wins projected for Round 1.
Road wins (0 out of 0) Home losses Differential (RW-HL)
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0 Baylor 0 Baylor 0 Baylor
0 Iowa State 0 Iowa State 0 Iowa State
0 Kansas 0 Kansas 0 Kansas
0 Kansas State 0 Kansas State 0 Kansas State
0 Oklahoma 0 Oklahoma 0 Oklahoma
0 Oklahoma State 0 Oklahoma State 0 Oklahoma State
0 TCU 0 TCU 0 TCU
0 Texas 0 Texas 0 Texas
0 Texas Tech 0 Texas Tech 0 Texas Tech
0 West Virginia 0 West Virginia 0 West Virginia
Perhaps amazingly, Kansas is not the most inconsistent team in the Big 12. West Virginia
played 30 points above expectation against Morgan State and 25 points below expectation
against Texas A&M. Kansas played "only" 21 points above expectation against Oakland and
30 points below expectation against Washington, giving the Jayhawks ninth place in the
conference in inconsistency. But Kansas is dead last in both trend and mental toughness.
That four-game stretch from South Dakota State to Toledo was all strongly above expectation,
followed by that three-game stretch from Washington to Nebraska, which was all strongly below
expectation. And the strongly above expectation games have come against the weakest teams in
the schedule, leading to the worst mental toughness value I've seen. And it has some statistical
significance to it as well.
Performance (points) Inconsistency (points)
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Texas Tech +2.65 Kansas State 8.28
Kansas +2.47 TCU 9.34
Oklahoma +2.37 Baylor 9.60
TCU +0.71 Oklahoma State 10.10
Oklahoma State +0.43 Texas 10.31
West Virginia +0.33 Texas Tech 10.34
Baylor +0.02 Oklahoma 11.47
Texas -0.01 Iowa State 13.10
Kansas State -0.17 Kansas 15.68
Iowa State -3.75 West Virginia 16.32
Trend (points per game) Mental toughness
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Oklahoma +0.91 +/- 1.11 Iowa State +0.50 +/- 0.34
Iowa State +0.70 +/- 1.30 Oklahoma +0.22 +/- 0.32
TCU +0.04 +/- 0.82 TCU +0.15 +/- 0.38
West Virginia -0.09 +/- 1.43 Texas +0.11 +/- 0.24
Baylor -0.56 +/- 0.95 Texas Tech +0.11 +/- 0.28
Texas Tech -0.64 +/- 0.88 Baylor 0.00 +/- 0.23
Oklahoma State -0.93 +/- 0.84 Kansas State -0.14 +/- 0.25
Kansas State -0.95 +/- 0.66 Oklahoma State -0.17 +/- 0.26
Texas -1.17 +/- 0.82 West Virginia -0.22 +/- 0.40
Kansas -1.37 +/- 1.31 Kansas -0.95 +/- 0.53
Look at Oklahoma's average offense; in the 90s! But their defense is also allowing way too
many points. Those 174 total point games are eye-popping. Texas Tech's league-leading
scoring margin was produced against the league's easiest schedule. Heck, half the conference
has strengths of schedule in the 300s out of 351 Division I teams. Give Texas some credit
for having played Duke, Gonzaga, Michigan, Butler, Alabama, and VCU. What I don't understand
is why Baylor's strength of schedule is rated 320; they've played Xavier, Wichita State,
Creighton, and Wisconsin, who are all in the Top 60. Yeah, the rest were cupcakes, including
a Division II school (and that's Division II in the NCCAA, not the NCAA), but four marquee
opponents ought to be a stronger schedule than #320.
Average offense (pts) Average defense (pts) Total Points Scoring Margin (pts)
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Oklahoma 94.18 Texas Tech 60.17 Oklahoma 174.18 Texas Tech +20.00
Kansas 86.50 Texas 61.42 TCU 160.08 Kansas +19.83
TCU 86.00 Kansas State 63.08 Kansas 153.17 West Virginia +19.33
West Virginia 83.75 West Virginia 64.42 West Virginia 148.17 Baylor +14.18
Baylor 80.18 Baylor 66.00 Baylor 146.18 Oklahoma +14.18
Texas Tech 80.17 Kansas 66.67 Oklahoma State 145.08 Kansas State +12.83
Oklahoma State 77.92 Oklahoma State 67.17 Iowa State 144.91 TCU +11.92
Kansas State 75.92 Iowa State 70.45 Texas Tech 140.33 Oklahoma State +10.75
Iowa State 74.45 TCU 74.08 Kansas State 139.00 Texas +9.75
Texas 71.17 Oklahoma 80.00 Texas 132.58 Iowa State +4.00
Schedule Strength
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Texas 75.19 ( 59)
Kansas 74.82 ( 69)
Oklahoma 74.08 ( 98)
TCU 71.44 (197)
Iowa State 69.80 (272)
West Virginia 68.48 (301)
Oklahoma State 68.28 (306)
Baylor 67.74 (320)
Kansas State 67.72 (323)
Texas Tech 66.63 (333)
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7 years 4 months ago #14975
by hoshi
“The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits”. Albert Einstein
Asteroid, I love these projections even more than the individual game projections as it let us track the projections versus performance of all the other teams. Thank you for all that contribute.
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Mahalo, Grazie, Great mate
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7 years 4 months ago #14976
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"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain "Innocents Abroad"
Agree with hoshi, the conference projections are the meat & potatoes for me.
Thanks for all your efforts! Mahalo nui loa! No ka oi!
Thanks for all your efforts! Mahalo nui loa! No ka oi!
"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain "Innocents Abroad"
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