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predictions for Tennessee State game
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6 years 6 months ago #14344
by asteroid
Deja vu. Are we playing Tigers again? Missouri Tigers. Fort Hays State
Tigers. Now Tennessee State Tigers.
As you can imagine, there is very little to go on for purposes of making
predictions for the first game of the season. Many don't even bother to
try. Others simply use the ratings from last season, which may or may
not provide a reasonable basis for a prediction, depending on how many
team members are back from last season. A few might try to tweak their
ratings based on changes to the roster and the perceived value of those
changes. Others might try to use the exhibition games as an indication.
Take it all with several grains of salt.
Fortunately, this first game is against a middle-tier opponent such that
even with the large uncertainties in the actual ratings for this season,
the probability of victory is rather high.
What I find interesting, or perhaps more amusing, is that Pomeroy's
numbers for Kansas changed ever so slightly between yesterday and today.
Why? I have no idea. And Tennessee State dropped from #212 to #213.
I assume it's because Baylor, Central Arkansas, Cincinnati, Lamar, Middle
Tennessee, and Savannah State have already played games that count, and
somehow those results have percolated through his system, affecting other
teams, even though they are not yet connected.
I assume Greenfield is using numbers from last season, but among the eight
offensive stats, Kansas has the advantage in all but free throws attempted
per field goals attempts. Among the seven defensive stats, Kansas has the
advantage in all but opponents points per game allowed.
ESPN's BPI includes a "matchup quality" index, and the two best games of
the day involve Big 12 and SEC teams. Iowa State travels to Missouri,
while Texas A&M travels to West Virginia. Sneak preview of the Big 12/SEC
Challenge, coming to arenas near you in January.
Margin Predicted Win Prb Kansas Tennessee State
Predictor points Score percent Rating SOS Rating SOS
==================== ====== ========= ======= ============= ===============
Sagarin Overall 26.21 99.1 # 3 #183
Sagarin Pure Points 26.21 99.1 # 3 #183
Sagarin Golden Mean 26.21 99.1 # 3 #183
Sagarin Recent Games 26.21 99.1 # 3 #183
Massey 26 86 60 98 # 1 #184
Pomeroy 23.81 86 62 # 5 #213
Greenfield 26.5 86 59.5 # 7 #206
Dunkel 31 93 62
Vegas (via Dunkel) 25.5 86 61
Real Time RPI 28 86 58 # 2 #176
Real Time GAMER 29 88 59 96.7 # 2 #176
CBN RPI not on board
Dolphin Predictive not on board
Colley Matrix not on board
Whitlock not on board
ESPN BPI 22.7 97.0 # 3 #246
LRMC not on board
Seven Overtimes not really on board (predicted score is 60-60 for many games)
Crotistics not on board
Here is Kansas' season, projected season record is 25-6:
SITE OPPONENT SCORE PREDIC ERROR PROB.
---- ----------------------------- ------- ------ ----- -----
HOME #183 Tennessee State +26.20 0.991
NEUT # 5 Kentucky +0.95 0.534
HOME #120 South Dakota State +21.88 0.977
HOME #238 Texas Southern +29.06 0.996
HOME #110 Oakland-Mich. +20.88 0.971
HOME #147 Toledo +23.52 0.984
NEUT # 44 Syracuse +9.83 0.814
HOME #105 Washington +20.47 0.969
HOME # 73 Arizona State +16.68 0.935
AWAY # 88 Nebraska +13.25 0.886
HOME #200 Omaha(Neb.-Omaha) +26.92 0.993
AWAY # 58 Stanford +9.12 0.796
AWAY # 23 Texas +4.02 0.643
HOME # 39 Texas Tech +12.38 0.870
AWAY # 22 TCU +3.93 0.640
HOME # 32 Iowa State +11.23 0.846
HOME # 40 Kansas State +12.39 0.870
AWAY # 6 West Virginia -1.15 0.458
HOME # 17 Baylor +8.38 0.777
AWAY # 28 Oklahoma +4.67 0.664
HOME # 29 Texas A&M +10.90 0.839
AWAY # 40 Kansas State +6.39 0.719
HOME # 49 Oklahoma State +14.04 0.899
HOME # 22 TCU +9.93 0.817
AWAY # 17 Baylor +2.38 0.586
AWAY # 32 Iowa State +5.23 0.683
HOME # 6 West Virginia +4.85 0.670
HOME # 28 Oklahoma +10.67 0.834
AWAY # 39 Texas Tech +6.38 0.719
HOME # 23 Texas +10.02 0.819
AWAY # 49 Oklahoma State +8.04 0.768
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6 years 6 months ago #14346
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Correction: both West Virginia and Texas A&M traveled to Germany to play the Armed Forces Classic. West Virginia is the home team.
Iowa State is playing at Mizzou.
Iowa State is playing at Mizzou.
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6 years 6 months ago #14347
by CorpusJayhawk
Don't worry about the mules, just load the wagon!!
I thought about trying to build in an algorithm to my DPPI for a beginning of season prediction but I could never get a grip on any algorithm that made any real sense. I simply cannot see how any of these ratings have meaning until there is a valid comprehensive connection which is at least 4 games in and not fully connect until 7 games in.
Don't worry about the mules, just load the wagon!!
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