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6 years 4 months ago #14443 by HawkErrant
As of this morning the 10 prognosticators that together power 247Sports Recruiting Crystal Ball ratings are all picking Grimes to sign with KU.

Same for the 4 Rivals experts.

Man, I sure hope they are all correct!

Come on, Q, we got a spot just for you!

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6 years 4 months ago #14448 by HawkErrant
Ooh, I like the way this week is playing out!

His signing gives Bill Self and KU a FANTASTIC early signing period class of:
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Pos  Rnk/Rating	NAME		  HT/WT	   Hometown & HS/College		Committed/Signed
CG    11/*****	Quentin Grimes	  6-5/180  The Woodlands, TX/College Park	17-11-15/17-11-15
PG    17/*****	Devon Dotson	  6-1/180  Charlotte, NC/Providence Day		17-10-13/17-11-11
PF    25/*****	Silvio De Sousa   6-9/220  Bradenton, FL/IMG Academy		17-08-30/17-11-08
C     33/****	David McCormack	  6-10/260 Mouth of Wilson VA/Oak Hill Acad	17-09-24/17-11-11

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6 years 4 months ago - 6 years 4 months ago #14449 by DrJHawker
I'd not seen this news anywhere else. Thanks for the quick report.

Excited to have Quentin Grimes in crimson and blue. What a fantastic early signing period!
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6 years 4 months ago #14450 by HawkErrant
Just reported by Shay Wildeboor on JayhawkSlant/Rivals.

Great, great week!

Now to cap it off with HCBS earning KU Win #419 on Friday!

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6 years 4 months ago #14453 by HawkErrant
In case it's not a public link, here are the top 30.
The Top 30 contains 4 Big 12 schools (see bold and colored text)
Remember, this is just as of the early signing period, still more work to follow throughout the year and after.

Rank & School
1 Duke
2 Kansas
3 Kentucky
4 Michigan State
5 North Carolina
6 USC
7 LSU
8 Notre Dame
9 Maryland
10 Michigan
11 Arkansas
12 Texas
13 Wake Forest
14 Mississippi State
15 Providence
16 Syracuse
17 Indiana
18 Florida
19 North Carolina St
20 Northwester
21 Iowa State
22 Ohio State
23 Oregon
24 Arizona
25 Villanova
26 Wichita State
27 UCLA
28 Vanderbilt
29 TCU
30 California

Texas Tech (#49) is the only other Big 12 school in the Top 50.

The rest:
66 WVU
67 Baylor
72 OkSt
85 OU
86T KState (15 way for 86)

Again, remember -- this is only for the early signing season, and these lists *never* include transfers in determining the rankings, only HS graduates.

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6 years 4 months ago - 6 years 4 months ago #14454 by porthawk
From the article...loaded is right!

"The Kansas backcourt is going to be really interesting next year,” he added. “Obviously you have Grimes and Dotson coming in as highly regarded recruits, Charlie Moore is coming off of sitting his transfer year. Marcus Garrett will be back, Sam Cunliffe is there and then you have to see what happens with Malik Newman and LaGerald Vick when it comes to the NBA. It's going to be a loaded group that will allow Self to play many different styles on both ends of the floor."

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6 years 4 months ago #14455 by DrJHawker
CBS Sports says we now have the #1 class in the country.

www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/new...-1-in-class-of-2018/
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6 years 4 months ago #14510 by HawkErrant
Four scholarships filled, and Self is thinking he could still have three more to fill, so he is still looking for more.

Self thrilled with 2018 haul, still looking for more.

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6 years 3 months ago #14682 by HawkErrant
The origin post, especially the OFFERED and FORMER RECRUITS tables, have been updated with the latest recruiting info I can find.

Although KU has more offers out there to guys who have yet to decide, at present there are only four Top 50 guys with known KU offers listed as still available -- #2 Zion Williamson (6-6 wing), #3 Romero Langford (6-4 SG), #13 Moses Brown (7-0 C) and #21 Emmitt Williams (6-6 F)

Williamson is reportedly looking vary hard at home state school Clemson, but at present he is pictured to be essentially a tossup between Clemson and UK, with KU and UNC trailing far behind.

Langford is considered to be KU's best bet at landing a fifth Jayhawk, but looking at 247Sports Crystal Ball projection we are 3rd in the running.
44% Indiana
39% Vanderbilt
11% JU
6%?

Moses Brown is considered to be a practical lock for Turgeon and Maryland (82% vs 18% for UK).

Emmitt WIlliams CB % are
50% LSU
21% Oregon
14% Florida
7% KU
7% others

Outside the top 50:

82/**** F Jairus Hamilton (6-7) of Concord, NC is considered an ACC lock
Maryland 47% N.C. State 29% North Carolina 12% Boston College 6% 6%

85/**** C B. Penn-Johnson (7-0) of Mt. Pleasant, UT is considered a lock for UWashington (100%)

That's it as far as confirmed offerees. I will add more to the list as information becomes available.

And we all know how Self & Co have a knack for finding talent worthy of development to complement the star players.

But it is nice, for the first time in a long while, to have recruiting essentially sewn up in November but for any late departures that need to be filled.in April.

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6 years 2 months ago #15593 by HawkErrant
Check out the Origin Post updated today for latest mock draft standings of current year players, the current scholarship situation, new Rivals rankings and who KU still has offers out on that have yet to decide. (Note well: no one is expecting Rivals #3 Zion Williamson to choose KU, but as they say "that's why they play the game".)

Today reports are Coach Jerrance Howard will be watching the final target KU really wants for 2018. Rivals #6 Romeo Langford is a 6-foot-4, 185-pound shooting guard from New Albany (IN) High School. He is currently down to Kansas, Indiana and Vanderbilt.

NB: Romeo and New Albany (IN) High School will be on ESPNU at 4:30 today.

Coach Self is going to Rochester, Minn to watch Rivals 2019 #9 prospect Matthew Hurt, a 6-foot-9, 200-pound power forward from John Marshall High School. According to Shay Wildeboor (JayhawkSlant), Hurt is "one of the most heavily recruited prospects in the 2019 class... with offers from Kansas, Arizona, Duke, Kentucky, Florida, Indiana, Louisville, North Carolina, UCLA, and many, many others have extended scholarship offers to Hurt. Having already been on campus unofficially and because Self and his staff have been recruiting Hurt for a long period of time, he and his family are quite familiar with the program."

Shay thinks that KU is "in excellent position for both. When all is said and done, it wouldn’t surprise me at all if both ended up attending Kansas."

That's it for now.

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6 years 2 months ago #15631 by HawkErrant
Updated a day later for the Billy Preston news.

Main change after yesterday's changes is in the Available Scholarships data.

All current recruits are covered with the departure of Preston.

If Self lands Rivals #6 Romero Langford, KU will need to come up with one more scholly.

What do you think of this team for next year?
(Assumes Vick, who is currently KU's highest projected 2018 NBA Draft candidate, is gone, but not Azubuike, who is not yet showing up on NDA Draft mocks.)

ACADEMIC YEAR 2017-18 Men's Basketball Roster
#  NAME			HT	WT	POS YR	  HOMETOWN/OLD SCHOOL
0  Marcus Garrett	6-5	180	G   Fr	  Dallas, TX
1  Dedric Lawson+	6-9	230	F   Jr	  Memphis, TN/Memphis
3  Sam Cunliffe%	6-6	200	G   FrRS  Seattle, WA/Arizona St
5  Charlie Moore^	5-11	170	G   So	  Chicago, IL/California
12 Chris Teahan*	6-5	175	G   Fr	  Kansas City, MO
13 KJ Lawson+		6-8	205	F   Jr	  Memphis, TN/Memphis
14 Malik Newman	        6-3	190	G   SoRS  Jackson, MS
21 Clay Young*		6-5	205	F   SrRS  Lansing, KS
22 Silvio De Sousa$     6-9	245	F   Fr	  Luanda, Angola
35 Udoka Azubuike       7-0	280	C   So	  Lagos, Nigeria
44 Mitch Lightfoot	6-8	210	F   So	  Gilbert, AZ
55 James Sosinski*~	6-7	250	F   So	  Chandler, AZ  
nn Quentin Grimes	6-5	180	G   Fr 	 The Woodlands, TX
nn Devon Dotson	        6-1	180	G   Fr	  Charlotte, NC
nn David McCormack	6-10	260	C   Fr	  Mouth of Wilson VA
nn Romero Langford      6-4	185	G   Fr	  New Albany, In

*Walk on
~Added to roster as of 2017-12-06
$Added to roster as of 2017-12-26 
#Graduate transfer
+Transfer, sat out AY2017-18, have 2 years to play 2
^Transfer, sat out AY2017-18, have 3 years to play 3
%Midyear AY2016-17 transfer, sat out Spring, Summer and Fall 2017, 
  Started after Fall semester, will have 3 1/2 years at KU if stays for 
  senior season (AY2020-21) 

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6 years 2 months ago #15838 by HawkErrant
Rivals 2018 *** SG Ochai Agbaji is getting a lot of attention these days as he and his game have matured (some commenters have gone so far as to describe his status as "blowing up"). A KCMO recruit, Agbaji has been added to the KU Offered table. Norm Roberts has been to see him play several times in recent weeks, and is anticipated to continue doing so. Could be our next Releford or Morningstar if Langford goes elsewhere? Because it sure seems that Self & Co are looking to have at least one more player loss after this season.

Comments from Rivals Analyst Eric Bossi on the lad. Link for JayhawkSlant subscribers
Ochai is a High major/Big 12 athlete for sure. Long arms, nicely built frame and he's a springy athlete who collects and gathers to get off the floor quite easily. Maybe somewhat straight up and down in his play and laterally (not a ton of wiggle to him) but a smart and alert player. Love his communication on the floor. Last night didn't set up for him to take a bunch of jump shots but his stroke looks pretty pure and free throws look great. Biggest area of concern would be ball handling. Really struggled when doubled last night and didn't show much off hand. But, I don't think he's being recruited by anybody to be a ball handler.

...The kid visited Colorado State a few weeks ago and is an absolute no brainer at that level. I can see why high majors are looking now because he has intangibles, is a worker and has the athletic tools. The fear for a higher level program (Kansas or Oregon State (official visit Feb. 10) or Texas A&M (watching him Friday, etc.) is that he goes to a place like that and 2-3 years down the road he's developed and you play against him and are like "why didn't we recruit him."

He's pretty solid and I am looking forward to seeing how it all unfolds for him. He's going to end up with some nice options and by all accounts is a high character kid.

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6 years 1 month ago #16057 by HawkErrant
Tait on Langford's Final 3 and decision status

Vandy and Indiana are on the downswing right now, but IU would mean staying home (see Trae Young and OU), so that is always a strong pull. And Vandy is close enough to home to be attractive for many of the same reasons as IU. Have to wonder -- if he waits until April as indicated, will KU winning #14 help in his decision? WIll KU making the FF or even winning it all help in his decision?

I'm hoping he decides KU, as I think we will lose at least one more player beyond DG, Svi and Billy P.
Who? That's all up in the air, and heavily dependent how the next 2 months play out for Newman, Azubuike and Vick in particular if we are talking early entry departures.

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6 years 1 month ago #16269 by HawkErrant
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6 years 1 month ago #16298 by HawkErrant
Updated to add new commit in Ochai Agbaji and new walk-on Garrett Luinstra, Free State HS PG.
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6 years 1 month ago #16306 by bklynhawk
Small point, but you may want to add James Sosinski under Juniors for next year.
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6 years 1 month ago - 6 years 1 month ago #16309 by HawkErrant
Thanks, bklyn, it's done!

I also took the opportunity to update Cunliffe's eligibility status, which I had previously gotten wrong. Although he sat out a year, per NCAA rules he lost a year of eligibility for the semester he played at ASU, and loses his second year by playing this Spring for KU. He was therefore technically not a redshirt in the traditional sense from Jan -Dec 2017, he just did not play because he had to sit out. Since he still gets 5 years of eligibility coming to him, he will still have 3 years left to play 2 after this semester. That means he can transfer somewhere else and and still play two years there.

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